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Old 08-27-2015, 10:06 PM
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There are seven HOFers I haven't been able to identify a card/matchbook/premium for:

Guy Chamberlain
Jimmy Conzelman
Joe Guyon
Ed Healey
Tuffy Leemans
Fritz Pollard
George Trafton

I have team photos that have these players on them but no individual items. You can find vintage photos of these players, though.

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I really like this set:http://www.psacard.com/PSASetRegistr...on.aspx?c=3658 for a much easier challenge that still includes a bunch of great players. And only the Hutson and Hein are.... "contrived" rookies.

So who would be the tough HOFers in a real earliest item HOF set? And the set wouldn't be all cards, right? Probably about 20 matchbooks? And how many photos? Would anyone be impossible? George Trafton?
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:51 PM
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There are seven HOFers I haven't been able to identify a card/matchbook/premium for:

Guy Chamberlain
Jimmy Conzelman
Joe Guyon
Ed Healey
Tuffy Leemans
Fritz Pollard
George Trafton

I have team photos that have these players on them but no individual items. You can find vintage photos of these players, though.

jeff
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Leemans is in an obscure Wheaties premium set issued c. 1941.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:25 AM
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Never saw that Wheaties premium before - who else is in the set?

For your list, Jeff, I've collected programs and autographs - Pollard is the toughest autograph of that group - I picked up a notarized cemetery deed and this postcard he sent to his son from Italy


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Old 08-28-2015, 10:21 AM
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Sweet! Thanks for the info and posting this, Bob. I've never seen that one before. Down to six:

Guy Chamberlain
Jimmy Conzelman
Joe Guyon
Ed Healey
Fritz Pollard
George Trafton

Anybody else see something out there for these guys?

jeff
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:26 AM
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Thanks guys! Down to 6 - not bad.

Mike, I actually looked up Pollard recently - I was actually just digging into the 1920 season and Pollard's team won the title - of course there was no MVP, but he arguably may have been. At around the 6 minute mark in this video: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...en-trailblazer you can see #1 returning a kick, but disappointingly they really don't tell you what they are showing.... I didn't think they had much video from the 20s....
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:10 AM
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Never saw that Wheaties premium before - who else is in the set?

For your list, Jeff, I've collected programs and autographs - Pollard is the toughest autograph of that group - I picked up a notarized cemetery deed and this postcard he sent to his son from Italy

Great stuff, Mike! I'm still kicking myself for not going harder after the signed Pollard cabinet that came up a while ago. You mention Pollard and Robeson. Here are a couple of photos of have:

Pollard (far right) with son's football team.



Paul Robeson.



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Old 08-28-2015, 11:39 AM
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Jeff, probably a stupid question, but what's the difference between a cabinet, a photo, and a premium? My guess is they are all photos, but when we say premium, it means a photo issued by a company for collectors. Cabinet I have no idea....
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:18 PM
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Nice list guys. Ive nevers seen the Leemans card either. Very nice.

Here is a virtual collection of some of the pre rookies being discussed.

http://imageevent.com/davemri/footba...rookiefootball
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:37 PM
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Rev,
The Wheaties premium set consists of 12 5x7 B&W photos and includes only one other football subject: coach Bernie Bierman. There are 5 baseball players (J. DiMaggio, Feller, Mize, Reiser, Williams), golfer Patty Berg and 4 of the Wheaties family (Jack Armstrong, Betty, Betty, Billy and Jim Fairfield).
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:42 PM
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Hi Dave,
Can you please tell me more about that Sporting Life Lombardi card in your slideshow? Is that a fantasy card? I've never seen or heard of anything like it! Thanks very much.
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