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Old 12-28-2018, 09:02 PM
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Default Ty cobb real or not

Heeeellllppppp. Please. On a reach joe cronin ball. Thanks
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Old 12-28-2018, 09:38 PM
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Anyone chime in?
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My immediate thought is that it appears fabricated
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Old 12-28-2018, 11:12 PM
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The Cobb looks stretched out.
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Old 12-28-2018, 11:26 PM
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Need a better picture for sure if possible
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It's one of those replica baseballs.
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Old 12-29-2018, 07:49 AM
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Facsimile ball, would be a 5 figure ball with ease if it was real
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:14 AM
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I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.
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Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.
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The original sold at Heritage, so it was a thing at least once.
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I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.
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Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.
Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...
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Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.


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Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.
Other than that, the signature and inscriptions appear as if they may be identical. (The OP pic is a bit too small to be certain.)

I suspect the OP ball may be a reproduction created using the high res image from Heritage.
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Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...
Exactly.
Listing teams and years of tenure when signing wasn't unheard of, even then. I can remember seeing examples that have sold from 19th century players like Fred Goldsmith and Jack Glasscock.

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They're definitely different balls.

Look at the number of stitches on the ball. Counting the stitch at the top of the "T", around to the left, and to the stitch at the bottom of the "A" in "Athletics", there are 14 stitches on the Heritage ball, while there are 17 stitches on the ball in this thread's original post.

Also, the Heritage ball is a Harridge, whlle the OP ball is a Cronin.

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