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Old 10-20-2017, 03:36 PM
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Just for reference, my grandfather actually wants me to sell it. He owned a jewelry store, and his motto was always to sell, not hold on to. He'd say, and did, to sell it lol. I still somewhat disagree with him, yes. It's something really neat to me. But I wanted to see what max value on it would be. Mostly though, show it off and see if anyone even cares about it lol
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Old 10-20-2017, 03:38 PM
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Old 10-20-2017, 03:44 PM
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With all of the auction houses nowadays, I see maybe 15-20 similar autograph books every year come up for auction. Unfortunately they are not worth the sum of their parts. Someone looking for a Mel Ott won't pay the extra for all of the other autographs he doesn't want. He can also likely find a signed index card or GPC with just Ott instead of a cramped signature as one of ten signatures on a page. A dealer won't pay full price either as a collector likely wouldn't happen to want all of these same autographs. It is worth the most to someone who will "harvest" the signatures and cut up the album to sell them off individually.

This maybe you take the five biggest and most valuable names and add up their value and that is a good indication of the total value upon sale.

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Old 10-20-2017, 04:26 PM
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I almost regret saying it's my grandfather's, because that's bring up value a lot more than worth. If you knew my grandfather, you'd know he was serious when he says, "you better sell all my stuff after I die." This included a lot of jewelry that family doesn't want to sell either lol. He would WANT me to sell it—and give me a pffft if I said I'd rather keep it. I agree with you guys however that its value has a lot more worth than $800. Selling it isn't my first intention.

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Old 10-20-2017, 04:27 PM
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I do think it is awful when people cut these up. I have 2 very nice whole albums from the 1930's that are highlights of my collection tho as Tom said the money is in cutting them up. Maybe you'd get $2,000. I'd hold onto it
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:49 PM
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Musial is an interesting one. It's from spring 1942—so leading into his rookie season. It makes it among his first autographs. At some point then he changed his signature into his autograph with the classic 'S'. There are signatures, signed forms and the such, that also show him once signing this way. When he changed and how relatively rare that makes this is something I'm trying to find out.

As I know it's real, this is one I will probably look into authenticating in the best way. Luckily it might also be the signature in best condition and without others around it.

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Old 10-20-2017, 07:47 PM
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Said just about everyone ever trying to sell something

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I'm a little surprised those quotes are that "low." At that, I'd rather just keep it. Which makes me think a serious collector would pay more.
In all seriousness, I would agree with most that already commented that the value comes from splitting up and selling to folks that want one or a few of the keys. The bulk of signatures in books like this wouldn't make most collectors look twice. I suppose there may be some sentimental value for a book like this, but honestly, a bunch of otherwise random signatures as a group is not all that meaningful to most.

I personally think the worst part of splitting up a book like this is the destroying of some good signatures to harvest better ones when they are signed too close together or when the signatures intertwine with each other slightly. Keeping a single page in those cases would have saved them. I hate those old autographs from books that were cut around the signature in the exact shape of the autograph itself. Not quite to that extreme, but close...
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Old 10-21-2017, 12:07 PM
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Thanks, guys! Sounds like keep it is the consensus here. I think it's really cool, so that value sounds worth more, I suppose.

I think this rookie Musial might be my "favorite," and seems the most "rare" to me.


It's on a clean page where it wouldn't be an odd shaped cut. It seems to have a lot more history—and would be among his first autographs.
I wonder level of interest in this alone for any Cards/Musial fan especially.

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Old 10-21-2017, 02:04 PM
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Old 10-21-2017, 02:40 PM
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One thing we CAN still do is identify the few left.

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Is the one below Mel Ott really Bubber Jonnard? What was he doing in 1942?
Per Wikipedia, Jonnard was a coach for the NY Giants from 1942-46
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