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Old 05-03-2017, 05:49 PM
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Default Desert Shield Help Please

Fellow community members,

It has been a long time since I posted in this forum. I hope you guys can help me out.

I recently purchased a 1991 Desert Shield Chipper Jones card. I love this parallel set and I agree with what I read on the PSA website about these desert shield cards - "Topps had a great idea and brought a new meaning to the term "Pre-War cards." I am excited to have found a raw copy because most of these cards are graded when they do surface. I made this purchase on the bay and this seller has also listed many other desert shield cards for sale. Also, he appears to own a memorabilia shop in the south and his feedback on ebay is impeccable.

I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of this card, however I know there are a lot of risks involved in purchasing a raw high end card and I want to ensure I am not overlooking anything.

Right off the bat the logo has a rounded bottom as you can clearly see. Also, the tip of the lowest leaf is right in between the letters "R" and "A." I actually just ordered a UV flashlight so I can make certain that the back of the card fluoresces after hitting it with black light. I do not know if it worth purchasing a loupe that I may not use much to determine if I can see a clear row of stars in the flag.

Please check out the scans below of the card and let me know what you think. Do you think this card is authentic? Is there anything else I should consider as well?





Thank you in advance.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:49 AM
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Can you give a better scan of the shield? It is hard to make out any detail in the pics...

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Old 05-04-2017, 11:14 AM
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With the understood proviso that I'am the furthest thing from an authenticity judge, I went to my PC and pulled my raw copy of this card. It, and a Tony Gwynn were given to me by a work buddy's son who was in the military at that time, although not deployed overseas. Your card looks like a dead ringer for mine. The only slight difference I see is on my copy the vertical red line on the right side of the card is mostly visible as it runs under the shield banner, while on yours I cannot see the line. This could be a function of the photo. As Zach Wheat has said a better look at the shield would be helpful. I would wager your card is legit.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:25 AM
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Looks good to me. I would be worried if the card said 'Larry Jones'
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:46 PM
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I have a set that I am happy with but if I were looking for advice on it I would go to Zach above
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:35 PM
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Definitely looks good to me.

I think the condition issues are the reason it was not graded. I would leave it that way as it is better with modern in my mind to leave raw than have a mid-grade if you ever wanted to part with it.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:30 PM
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Can you give a better scan of the shield? It is hard to make out any detail in the pics...

Z
sure, thank you for asking. The file size is too large so I do not think I can attach the high res (2400 DPI) JPEG that I just scanned, however I uploaded this to photobucket (like I did previously with the 300 DPI JPEG) and I am copying and pasting the link/image of the high res JPEG directly below:



Thank you in advance.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:37 PM
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Thank you very much for taking the time to provide your analysis. I scanned the card again (this time with 2400 DPI instead of 300). My understanding is the shield should look the same for each player's card however there may be slight variations in the shield when comparing different players from the same parallel set.

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With the understood proviso that I'am the furthest thing from an authenticity judge, I went to my PC and pulled my raw copy of this card. It, and a Tony Gwynn were given to me by a work buddy's son who was in the military at that time, although not deployed overseas. Your card looks like a dead ringer for mine. The only slight difference I see is on my copy the vertical red line on the right side of the card is mostly visible as it runs under the shield banner, while on yours I cannot see the line. This could be a function of the photo. As Zach Wheat has said a better look at the shield would be helpful. I would wager your card is legit.
lol, thank you. I certainly would not have pulled the trigger if that was the case.

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Looks good to me. I would be worried if the card said 'Larry Jones'
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I have a set that I am happy with but if I were looking for advice on it I would go to Zach above
I appreciate it. Yes, I would not get it graded, which is how I typically prefer my cards, although I understand at times it makes sense to buy graded. The seller described the card as NM and did not provide a great picture. I understand it's probably exmint at best. Your advice makes sense, thank you.

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Definitely looks good to me.

I think the condition issues are the reason it was not graded. I would leave it that way as it is better with modern in my mind to leave raw than have a mid-grade if you ever wanted to part with it.
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Old 05-04-2017, 06:45 PM
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Here's one I sold last year for comparison.

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....and a closeup of the logo on the Ryan:

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