How much is that Ruth autog. worth?A spat between a collector(MLB player)and a seller

[RichardSimon]

http://deadspin.com/d-backs-reliever...ts-i-453369559

[jgmp123]

Lol...The whole 1/1 thing strikes again...

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Lol...The whole 1/1 thing strikes again...

Call it the lunacy of 1/1.

[JimStinson]

ALL AUTOGRAPHS are 1/1.......................Yes its in poor taste to make a confidential e-mail public , but its also in poor taste to BEG for a half off discount no matter HOW ridiculous the asking price is.

There will ALWAYS be more great stuff to buy than any collector would have money to buy it with Unless your name is Gates or Trump and even then I'm not so sure
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jim@stinsonsports.com

[HexsHeroes]

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. . . I thought they were quite cordial in how they conducted themself with an equally questionable behaving buyer.

Or have I missed something in the email banter ?

[Bpm0014]

Bottom line: Whether it's listed for $5k or $10k, the seller certainly has the right to list it for whatever he wants. He also has the right to decline any offers that he feels are too low. The seller certainly didn't do anything wrong.

[packs]

It's frustrating as a buyer though. You are more than willing to pay a fair price and the seller turns you down because they want to rip someone else off. I also hate when sellers respond with "I've already received offers of...." because in almost every case they are lying to get you to offer more. Anyone who receives offers of more than $9K for that card would be a dummy to turn them down. And he says he has 2.

[Westsiders]

And I have to give the seller some credit. I think selling the redemtion card, and not the card itself, is genius. Some buyer's imagination is going to run wild and they're going to grossly overpay for it.

[jcmtiger]

I'm with the seller on this sale.


Joe

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

http://deadspin.com/d-backs-reliever...ts-i-453369559

Interesting read. I don't see where Ziegler was out of line if the numbers he was quoting were accurate. The seller doesn't appear to be a baseball card vendor by looking at their other auctions, and I felt they came off worse than Ziegler in the exchange. Particularly by sending the exchange to Deadspin.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

Interesting read. I don't see where Ziegler was out of line if the numbers he was quoting were accurate. The seller doesn't appear to be a baseball card vendor by looking at their other auctions, and I felt they came off worse than Ziegler in the exchange. Particularly by sending the exchange to Deadspin.

Absolutely. Tacky and unethical for a dealer to publicly share a private email exchange.

Between that and trying to inflate the price with this 1/1 manufactured card nonsense... a dealer best avoided.

[JimStinson]

Thats funny ! If the same tactics carried over into "real life" I bet the folks at Walmart LOVE him...
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[Deertick]

That is classic. I'm surprised he didn't break out the "I make more in one inning than you make all year" card. The seller may have been priced high, but we have all had one of those buyers who feel you OWE it to them to sell it on their terms.

I'd be afraid to have him on my fantasy team. Who knows when Karma's going to look for retribution!

[jgmp123]

But it's a 1 of 1

[chaddurbin]

Ziegler must really want the card if he's spent so much time going back and forth with the seller. we know that he knows that he can buy a number of other ruth sigs for less. my guess is he's going to break down and buy the card for around 10k (that's like pitching 2/3rd of an inning for him)

[Exhibitman]

Seller was 100000% correct here, and I don't even blame him for outing that obnoxious boor. I am usually a lot less patient; my standard response is "then go find it somewhere else." The buyer's tactics also were stupid; go ahead and tell the seller what a big-time buyer you are, it so makes him sympathetic to your plight, poor rich boy.

I used to get so many obnoxious a-holes arguing price with me on Ebay that I put this into all of my auction listings to nip it in the bud:

"Please do not email me complaining about the price; that is not a viable method of negotiation in my book. I am the writer and publisher of America's Great Boxing Cards, the definitive encyclopedia of American boxing cards. I know the boxing card market on the cards I sell better than anyone else in the world and I try to offer the rarest cards I can find at fair price--most of them have pops close to zero--so please do not waste your time insulting my intelligence with a lowball offer on a rare card."

And you know what? When it comes to rare cards I generally get my asking price eventually, sometimes from the same dork who argued vociferously that the card is worth far less.