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Old 11-24-2018, 09:23 AM
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Default Fake World Series Pins

I'm no expert, but this Germany seller has had these going now for awhile and seems to have a never ending supply.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-World-...0&LH_Auction=1


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-World-...9u4U:rk:1:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-Chicag...p2047675.l2557

So just a matter a time before they make it across the pond and pollute the hobby.
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Old 11-24-2018, 09:28 AM
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Old 11-24-2018, 09:35 AM
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I know almost nothing about pins but if those are fake (and I believe you, Paul) then that really bites. Collectors will get fooled by these.
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Old 11-24-2018, 09:59 AM
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Paul is correct he has been selling them for years . Aged to look old. He had started with I believe 1962 Giants pins back about 6-7 years ago.. And many were sold ,have now filtered down over the years thru ebay. Much worse than Pinzsplus on ebay as these look good and have a lot of correct sizing...
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Old 11-26-2018, 06:47 AM
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If I collected pins I would be very unhappy with sellers selling those phonies. Hopefully Karma takes care of them...

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Paul is correct he has been selling them for years . Aged to look old. He had started with I believe 1962 Giants pins back about 6-7 years ago.. And many were sold ,have now filtered down over the years thru ebay. Much worse than Pinzsplus on ebay as these look good and have a lot of correct sizing...
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:42 PM
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If any potential buyer does any research at all (or even just google for images of the pins), they will clearly see these barely resemble the real deal. Only fools will think these are genuine.

I have contacted ebay about these as well as contacted the seller yet nothing has been done. I have sent ebay pics of the genuine pins as well as these knock-offs and cannot get them to either clearly mark them as reproductions and/or get them eliminated from ebay altogether.
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Old 11-29-2018, 03:16 PM
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The top pin: 1911 Philadelphia Athletics WS Press Pin - First WS Press Pin Ever Issued. Sold for over $53K in 2013. Buying this pin at $80 is a "real bargain"

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...t-ever-issued/
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:26 PM
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I'm glad you posted about these Shoeless and that you contacted ebay Wrapperguy. I saw them recently too - and had this exchange with the seller.


ME1: Das sind wundervolle alte Stifte! Wie lässt du aussehen?sie aussehen?
aussehen??Kannst du einen für 1939 Cincinnati Reds machen? Vielen Dank

harsenm_nn:1: You can write in english, I am afraid I don´t understand the translation

ME2: haha okay. I will. I say these are wonderful pins. They look old - can you make one for the 1939 Cincinnati Reds? thank you.

harsenm_nn2: What do you mean; I don´t make pins, I trade them

ME3: But aren't these made to look old? I assume you make them as they arent the actual pins that were issued for the games.


harsenm_nn3: no, they are not made to look old bud...

END OF EXCHANGE

When I did a google search for the image on his ebay profile I seem to get a stock photo of sorts....

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...aSI4B5NWc7lF1g


I'm not sure why if he thinks they are real, he is so happy selling them for thousands less than they are worth. Sigh.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:36 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseball-Bo...frcectupt=true



oh sorry, didn't mean to out an auction.
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Old 12-22-2018, 06:59 PM
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Just another reason to say screw this hobby. Unfortunately, karma doesn't always catch up to people. It'd be nice to just put all these a-holes in a room together and let them beat each other down. What might be unfortunate is that the shady guy from the south side would probably put together his dream team of a-holes and really screw this hobby up worse than it already is...
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We just talked about this guy on another thread. Glad you added pictures.

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I hope he chokes on some veener schnitzel
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Old 11-19-2019, 08:20 AM
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I have recently come across these pins given to me for an auction. I suspect them to be fake, trying to verify them and where they came from. If they are fake I would recommend them be thrown in the garbage. Thanks for any info. Kind of new at this hope the pics show
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:24 AM
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Yes these appear to be reproductions that have been mostly circulated and sold from some European ebay users. I have seen Germany as the origin for similar pins but can't say if they are definitely from the same person.

Look at this on eBay
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323976933779

Here is a link for one similar current auction.

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Old 11-19-2019, 01:33 PM
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The pin attachment is a dead giveaway. The fakers use a oval metal piece with hole in middle that attaches the the pin to the badge. This identical attachment has been used for years on fAke radio and cereal premium badges
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:47 AM
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Thanks Justin, as I suspected. Like the Fake Nazi Pins I Have seen from Germany.
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:49 AM
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Thanks Ron, I have seen the same Pin attachments on Fake WWII Nazi Pins from Germany
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:45 PM
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"Unfortunately, karma doesn't always catch up to people."

I'm still betting it does. When I first started going to card shows as a kid in the early 1970s, I learned very quickly — and sometimes the hard way — that there were shady people in the hobby. They just couldn't hide behind an internet handle back in those days. Regardless whether it's true, the belief that karma is real has helped keep me sane all these years.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:01 PM
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...that someone would go to this much trouble to make and sell fake stuff like this. Wonder if it's paying off. I guess a lot of people haven't learned--or won't pay attention to--the old lesson, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."
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Old 11-23-2019, 02:07 PM
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No question these are aged to look old, many of these pins are very hard to find - and any pre-1930 pins do not come around often, I noticed the 1915 Red Sox pin the other night right away - have not seen an original in at least 20 years.

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If my memory serves me correctly, fake press pins have been a problem in the hobby for decades. Long before the advent of the internet.
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