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Old 03-19-2019, 10:05 AM
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Default mike trout $430 million,over 12 years

oh well,,,thoughts ,,,
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:11 AM
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Good signing, IMO. It's not the back end you worry about, it's what you might miss on the front end that would be devastating. He's the player of the generation.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:11 AM
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He's great, but his skills haven't achieved much post season results yet ! Neither has Harper and Machado. Can't win with one great player. I'd pay up for a few good pitchers. Pitching is still I think 90%. Look at the Angels pitching staff. Compare to Boston and Houston etc.
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Pujols....Angels
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:23 AM
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WOW!!! Good for him! Better deal than Machado/Harper imo...just need a supporting cast now!!!
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:25 AM
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:29 AM
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If Trout is like all the others before him , his SB's will go down a lot in the next few years (look at Canseco, Sosa, Soriano etc). In his 30's, his baserunning will no longer be an asset, in fact he has not had over 30 SB since 2013 (not over 30 for the last 5 years) !!! . 7 years and he has hit the 100 RBI mark 2 times (100,111) !!! I'm I missing something here, I know he is great, but that much above the others ???

I know he is a great player but I thought his stats were much better than this. Watching MLB Network I thought he was the greatest of all-time ( lifetime average is . 307 , you would think it was .350+ ).

Also I watch a lot of baseball games and I think most CF's are very good and fast. Not sure how some get rated higher than others, they all make great plays.

I know firstbasemen are rated lower, but they are in on most plays in the game ! Ground balls, double plays, fielding bunts, pickoff attempts from catcher and pitcher, throwing the ball to the pitcher , when the pitcher is covering first, scooping the balls in the dirt and saving runs etc.
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If Trout is like all the others before him , his SB's will go down a lot in the next few years (look at Canseco, Sosa, Soriano etc). In his 30's, his baserunning will no longer be an asset, in fact he has not had over 30 SB since 2013 (not over 30 for the last 5 years) !!! . 7 years and he has hit the 100 RBI mark 2 times (100,111) !!! I'm I missing something here, I know he is great, but that much above the others ???

I know he is a great player but I thought his stats were much better than this. Watching MLB Network I thought he was the greatest of all-time ( lifetime average is . 307 , you would think it was .350+ ).

Also I watch a lot of baseball games and I think most CF's are very good and fast. Not sure how some get rated higher than others, they all make great plays.

I know firstbasemen are rated lower, but they are in on most plays in the game ! Ground balls, double plays, fielding bunts, pickoff attempts from catcher and pitcher, throwing the ball to the pitcher , when the pitcher is covering first, scooping the balls in the dirt and saving runs etc.
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Trout bats 2nd. 100 RBI ain't gonna happen very often. That 111 year? Led the league.

First basemen? By far the easiest position on the field. Any comparison to CF is a joke.

Is Trout that much better than everyone else? Yes. He hits for average, his for power, takes walks, is an elite runner, and great defender. 7 full seasons in the majors - 2 MVPs and 4 runner-up finishes. The 7th season? He was the runaway frontrunner before getting injured. In those 7 full seasons, he's never gone more than two games without getting on base. TWO.

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If Trout is like all the others before him , his SB's will go down a lot in the next few years (look at Canseco, Sosa, Soriano etc). In his 30's, his baserunning will no longer be an asset, in fact he has not had over 30 SB since 2013 (not over 30 for the last 5 years) !!! . 7 years and he has hit the 100 RBI mark 2 times (100,111) !!! I'm I missing something here, I know he is great, but that much above the others ???



I know he is a great player but I thought his stats were much better than this. Watching MLB Network I thought he was the greatest of all-time ( lifetime average is . 307 , you would think it was .350+ ).



Also I watch a lot of baseball games and I think most CF's are very good and fast. Not sure how some get rated higher than others, they all make great plays.



I know firstbasemen are rated lower, but they are in on most plays in the game ! Ground balls, double plays, fielding bunts, pickoff attempts from catcher and pitcher, throwing the ball to the pitcher , when the pitcher is covering first, scooping the balls in the dirt and saving runs etc.
He has no control over who's on base ahead of him when he hits. Asinine to blame him for low RBI totals.

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Old 03-19-2019, 10:33 AM
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Well, it looks like the Angels just wanted to do away with any chatter that he might be headed somewhere else and paid what it took to make that happen.

Regardless of winning or losing, their fan base would have had a hard time forgiving them in losing a generational talent like him.

This is essentially a legacy contract to keep him in the fold for the rest of his life. There's almost no way he plays up to the contract from a numbers standpoint for the life of the contract, but he's the type of player, he's worth more to the Angels then just the numbers.

He's an athletic freak, but he's not exactly an iron man. I envision a similar sort of career track with him that we saw with Ken Griffey Jr.. I think it's only a matter of two or three years before injuries start taking a real toll on his body and his performance.
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Good for Trout. It's a joy to watch him play.
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I am very happy. He is a GREAT player and it would have been devastating to lose him. Now we can build around him. After 2002 I really doubted if I would ever see the Angels back in the World Series. Now, for the first time, I have hope. The farm system is better than it was a couple of years ago. Pujols' contract (which I hated) will come off the books in 2021, I think. This is about as excited as I have been since the Angels signed Vlad.

and.... he is a nice kid. He has signed for my son 4 times and given him a practice ball. Happy for him, the Angels and myself as a fan.

Rarely do these long term deals work out. Here I am betting that it will.

Thanks to Arte Moreno for making the right call after the Josh Hamilton and Pujols disasters.
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i wonder in the past 15 years...how many of the top contracts have been worth it..

we know about ARod and pujols.....m. cabera,, the jury may be out on that one....mike stanton?

Its not really about the money to many of the owners....life is short....if you are very rich you dont care about wasting some money ...its all about the opportunity and fear of missing out....basically what i am saying is these big contracts really may not be great in the business sense but if life is short and you have all the money in the world and love baseball and want a chance to win it all....why not buy the toy instead of your friend buying it

How much was paid recently to keep the Alliance Football League from going under? You think that was a good business decision.......in sports people are willing to do that...childhood love of sports....

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Good for him, best player in the game and just quietly goes about his business.
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Good for him, best player in the game and just quietly goes about his business.
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Trout very well could be this generation's Ernie Banks. Great player but little to no post season appearances.

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As a baseball fan and an Angels fan, I'm excited that Mike Trout will finish out his career here in Southern California. I plan to take my son to a lot of Angels game going forward. Very exciting news for me!
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