Ebay delibrately leaving bad items on the board - they need the $$$

[travrosty]

they only removed "some" of the fakes anyway, so they are being fair now, either leave all the fakes up or take down ALL the fakes.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by travrosty

they only removed "some" of the fakes anyway, so they are being fair now, either leave all the fakes up or take down ALL the fakes.

With a philosophy like that, thankfully you are not in law enforcement or anti-terrorism.

Officer: Chief, our estimates indicate there are a percentage of drunk drivers, rapists and con artists at large.

Chief Roste: You mean we are not catching 100% of violators? That's not fair to the ones we do arrest. Screw it. Let 'em all go.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

With a philosophy like that, thankfully you are not in law enforcement or anti-terrorism.

Officer: Chief, our estimates indicate there are a percentage of drunk drivers, rapists and con artists at large.

Chief Roste: You mean we are not catching 100% of violators? That's not fair to the ones we do arrest. Screw it. Let 'em all go.

Well written, Mr. Zipper!!!!

My sentiments exactly.

[travrosty]

thats the dumbest analogy ever.

when the violators arre already caught, not AT LARGE. It's not liek we dont know fo the psa and jsa screwups, they have been caught, proven and turned in. Just not prosecuted fairly like the rest.

case in point.

you catch two guys robbing the store,

one white, one black, you bring them in, they book the black guy and let the white guy go.

now does your analogy hold up?


what you are saying is that we cant catch the psa or jsa screwups so lets let them all go.

but we already caught them and reported them, its just that its selective ENFORCEMENT, not the fact that we cant catch them all so let's let the ones we do catch go. We DID catch psa and jsa, its just that its ebay picking winners and losers.

I don't think you would have the same attitude if they delisted the psa and jsa fakes and kept the drew max fakes up? you wouldnt have a problem with that? It all comes down to whose ox is being gored. Just give me a good reason why psa and jsa fakes that have been proven to be fake deserve to remain up. you can't because you you like it that way. You like psa and jsa fakes. If you didn't , you would demand they come down the same as the rest.

a fake is a fake is a fake. These fakes are being laid right at ebays doorstep, they just choose to ignore some because of their cozy relationships.

So it's good i am not in law enforcement because I don't practive selective enforcement of the law? law enforcements job is to serve justice, which is suppose to be blind. two violators violating the same statute deserve equal treatment and justice under the law. not look one way for one and book the other. when the DA's brother in law gets his traffic ticket dismissed, when others have to pay, then that's a problem. But I guess you don't have a problem with that. I have had an EMR ask me for all the non psa and jsa fakes. what the heck is that? why protect companies who screwup and certify fakes. why are their fakes golden and something we shouldn't talk about and take proactive action with? Sacred cows for $$$$$$$$$$$$, power and other considerations in return for shutting up.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by travrosty

when the violators are turned in an you let them go, its not like you have to go searching for them.

case in point.

you catch two guys robbing the store,

one white, one black, you bring them in, they book the black guy and let the white guy go.

now does your analogy hold up?

I need to capture your post for posterity.

The point is this:

This war you have with PSA and JSA has so warped your judgement and reasoning that you actually welcome the idea of unleashing thousands upon thousands of fakes into the marketplace out of pure spite.

[Mr. Zipper]

And once again, Travis hijacks yet another thread with his incoherent ramblings about a white whale or strawberry ice cream.

Go start your own thread people can ignore. This is NOT about PSA or JSA.

[travrosty]

autographs don't have a race but they have an affiliation.

if you are affiliated with us (psa, jsa), then your autographs are protected on ebay.

i would report all fakes no matter whose name or company is on them, and i would demand they ALL be taken down. no name is above being pulled as a FAKE.

why is a psa or jsa fake somehow a better, higher-cut of an autograph than a fake by anyone else?

its discrimination, no matter how you look at it. you can defend it or try to explain it away, but it's still there.

some emr's deserve to be emr's some don't. i know an emr who knows nothing about autographs, but he is an emr. why? I don't know.

other emr's sell a lot of autogrpah in their specialty on ebay, with disclaimers on their accounts to watch out for the OTHER sellers, who may sell fakes. and this guy gets to report to ebay the fakes he finds within that same specialty he sells for and promises coa's from the company he works for as well. that's what is screwed up about this whole deal.

if ebay won't treat a proven fake as a fake and pull it, then it doesnt' deserve the support of emr's or anybody.