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Dan- I realize submissions are supposed to be anonymous. But take a high profile card like that, and assume the same grader has seen it at least a few times over that period, and it's really not all that anonymous anymore. When you are working at a company full time, you get to know alot about what is going on, and most would certainly recognize that card. I mean, we're talking about the same card in the grading room twenty times!
David- I've always been concerned with graders accepting money under the table. That's why it's so difficult to take any of these grades seriously. Of course, I have no idea what may actually go on. |
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Sometimes the card meets the stated criteria and looks great. Sometimes it meets the criteria, but lacks eye appeal. Sometimes the card is under graded, and merits a bump-- if one wants that third-party validation or enhancement of their financial outlay, or is just out to flip it for profit. TPGs are just rendering their opinion, that's all it is, end of the day. And different graders will assign different grades to different cards on different days. It's also a business for profit; hence it's in their best interest to err on the side of stringent grading, so as to spur submissions for reviews or crack and resubs.
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It really is bizarre in one sense that putting a different flip on the same card makes a $375 K difference. But there is a market for flips that is now just as strong as the market for cards, so that's how it goes. PS In my opinion there is no meaningful difference between a 9 and 10 other than the flip. But in a market for flips that is a meaningful difference.
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Frankly, IMHO, this is the stupidity of buying 10's when there is often little if any difference with a 9 other than 10X the price tag.
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I'd even extend that to apply to all cards in adjacent grades. If you'd really like a 6, there's one hiding out in an elite 5 holder somewhere, etc. Buy the card.
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And beauty is in the eye of the beholder of the holder.
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I had been thinking that beauty was on the flip of the holder, but your quote is much better.
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I do think folks can espouse different collecting philosophies without indirectly crapping on what 10-buyers like to do with their loot-- my earlier post about seeking the lower grade example is just how I do it. If someone loves a 10, be happy.
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Wow, that's some bump! I suppose if a seller has the stomach for repeatedly cracking out and sending back a multi-thousand dollar card, it is possible to get lucky. Doesn't make the result less random or subjective, though. It is still alchemy and I still think those who drink the PSA Kool-Aid are in for a rude awakening when the music stops playing.
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I don't follow that Ryan card, but it look top grade to me. Lots of talk about graders being greased and buyers buying flips...anyone have opinions on why that card is not one of the best graded?
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