Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

[Sunny]

Peter Nash is Prime Minister Pete Nice of 3rd Bass. Here he is preforming on stage July 2013 in Brooklyn, first show in 13 years, see link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aijf-nq1Zgk

Hope you do well Peter because you owe a lot of people money. Maybe you should write a new song about pleading the fifth since you have firsthand experience. You can give some words of wisdom about how you got the gas face by pleading the fifth dozens of times in a civil lawsuit. I have a suggestion for you write something about your life experiences on your Hauls of Shame website such as your “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” in Cooperstown, NY that you used to own in 1995 & 1996. Your “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” had a large collection of old trophy balls and very interesting artifacts and memorabilia on display such as that 1853 Knickerbockers Trophy Ball that was given to Henry Chadwick, now subject to the lawsuit between Corey Shanus and Robert Lifson. Where did you get all those items on display at the wax museum? It’s time to tell all Peter Nash! After all you own the Hauls of Shame website. We want to know the truth! What about the 1854 Trophy Ball you had on display at the wax museum and then you sold it for $72,050 back in 1996 which was a record selling price at the time and now that same 1854 Trophy Ball is on permanent display at the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. MastroNet wrote in there description that the 1854 Trophy ball is similar in color and lettering to the 1853 Trophy Ball that Corey Shanus bought for $161,992 in 2003. Mr. Nash, where did you get these items from? Corey Shanus should depose you and put you in the hot seat! What about the 1903 World Series baseball once owned by Cy Young and donated to the Brooklyn Elks Lodge #22 that you sold in 1994 and was recently sold by Legendary Auctions for $65,000. Where did you get that 1903 World Series baseball that was owned by the Brooklyn Elks #22? See Link:

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...y-Winning-Pitc

I noticed some of the items that you sold have BPOE No. 22 stamped on it meaning (Brooklyn Elks Lodge 22 of the Benevolent Protective Order of Elks). For example the Henry Chadwick cabinet card you sold in 2007 on the back of the cabinet photo it is stamped with BPOE No. 22, see link:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2004/470.html

It’s interesting to note that Henry Chadwick belonged to Brooklyn Elks No. 22 and so did Abe Yager the sports writer that took over Henry Chadwick position at the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. Henry Chadwick’s cabinet card you sold has Yager’s name written on it and Brooklyn daily Eagle. Where did you get these items from? Why did Cy Young donate his 1903 World Series Baseball to the Brooklyn Elks No. 22 in 1953? Is it because this Elks club had a baseball collection and you bought it? Mr. Nash you go into extreme details about the items you write about on Your Hauls of Shame website so please write about the items mentioned here that you once owned. Intriguing minds would love to know the history of these items. If anybody else would like to know more about Peter Nash here’s a couple of links:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...tax-returns-ov

Peter Nash will be preforming with 3rd Bass at Warm Fest 2013 on Sept 2, Broad Ripple Park between 3:15 - 4:00pm Indianapolis, Indiana.

http://lineup.warmfest.org/events/2013/09/02/

[the 'stache]

This ought to be interesting.

[oldjudge]

Doesn't Sunny need to post his full name?

[MattyC]

1. Steppin To The AM was my cut.
2. That DJ in the video KILLS IT.

[ElCabron]

Sunny just gave Pete the Net54 Gas Face.

-Ryan

[Tabe]

it's crazy that Nash is such a questionable character and yet he has done awesome work on Hauls of Shame.


And, man, 3rd Bass did some great music back in the day.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Doesn't Sunny need to post his full name?

I thought the same thing!

[Rich Klein]

post his name. And there are many people in the 1st Joseph P coumn who need to do the same. I know it's a lot of work but Leon needs to add those names.

Actually Sunny did post his name in the long thread over on the auto board on Heritage which morphed into a new discussion. His name is

Rob.ert Fra.ser

[barrysloate]

You should also take Corey's full name out of the post.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

You should also take Corey's full name out of the post.

You guys are posting at 5 freaking a.m my time. I am snoring about then. Sunny will have his name in all of his posts (now). I doubt he cares but regardless it's the rule. There was no mandate in the first thread about every single poster having their name in it, but the rules of the board still apply. So I will be going back over that thread sometime today and adding names where need be. I will not mess with anyone's comments. The other mods or I don't tell people what to say or not to say.

[Rich Klein]

[ullmandds]

I was up at 5!

[z28jd]

I'm not surprised he was behind on taxes at one point, I heard when he signed his record deal all he really got was a box of Newports and puma sweats.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I was up at 5!

Heck, by 5:00a.m. I've already drank 2 cups of coffee and written 3 memos...You guys are slackers....

[Bpm0014]

"get was a box of Newports and puma sweats...."

I'm surprised at the number of references to past 3rd Bass songs. Seems like a lot of people listened to them. No joke, they were awesome....

[MVSNYC]

Awesome Album

[wonkaticket]

The OP has first hand knowledge of Mr. Nash's trade and is quite the collector. I guess we can expect Pete to address this and many others any day now on his website. I mean after all Pete is all about making the hobby a better place right?

Nice to see Pete's trademark cane was replaced by an umbrella from the clubs lost and found, keep on keeping it real Prime Minister Nash..

[baez578]

Def scam recordings? Hmmm

Here's a "where are they now" piece and Pete's in around 3:35 mark

http://youtu.be/eAZhBA1EBJA

[Ease]

I hope y'all are kidding about liking 3rd Bass. I thought they were completely wack, and I didn't know anyone else who liked them either. To me they were more of a gimmick than Vanilla Ice himself.

[MattyC]

At least in NYC, they were nowhere near the joke Ice was. Ice was a clown with one hit that was a total beat bite off Under Pressure. 3rd Bass was legit with Gas Face, Stepping To The AM, Bklyn-Qns, and Derelicts of Dialect-- all solid cuts that still get a modicum of love to this day, whereas Ice's one song is played by not a DJ on earth, except maybe as a nostalgia laugh at a wedding.

Where I was (Bklyn and Manhattan late 80s thru 90s), 3rd Bass was more or less on par with say a Special ED, yeah they fell off the map but the cuts still get love. Ice went out as a gimmick sorta like Fu Schnickens and Das EfX-- though I cant lie who didn't bump Das when they dropped.

Cactus Album is just not put in same bucket as Vanilla Ice, least not to the hardcore hip hop heads I knew/know. But not all areas were feeling the same stuff, of course.

Not by any means saying Bass gets bumped with the likes of Gang Starr or even Masta Ace, just nowhere near Ice.

[Al C.risafulli]

Somehow I don't think this discussion was the OP's intent.

-Al

[Bpm0014]

Matty C, couldn't agree more. But Masta Ace???? Please replace Masta Ace with Eric B and Rakim.... Thanks.

[ReefBlue]

I still listen to them almost every day. They had a short career, but they were legit.

My favorite song--Product of the Environment.

Derelicts of Dialect was a hot album.



(Ebbets Field/Dodger stuff in Brooklyn Queens video . . .)

[Bpm0014]

"Pushin' a drug, I can't understand, destroyin' a life for a buck in their hand...."

Kind of fitting for the post I guess...

[ReefBlue]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Somehow I don't think this discussion was the OP's intent.

-Al

On Corral.net (mustang board), someone mentioned a Vanilla Ice lyric about a Mustang. It turned into complete discussion about his music and all his videos got posted and people started reminiscing about the 90s. Ended up being an awesome thread.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Somehow I don't think this discussion was the OP's intent.

-Al

+1

[z28jd]

I may have been the only person who listened to the Dust to Dust tape until it waved the white flag. I still occasionally youtube songs from it.

3rd Bass was waaaay better than Vanilla Ice, they had legit songs and Steppin to the AM got a lot of air play around my hood, not just Gas Face and Pop Goes the Weasel

[baez578]

Am I the only one interested the OP's reason for the thread?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by baez578

Am I the only one interested the OP's reason for the thread?

I will go out on a limb and say it is to expose what and who he really is, if that is the nature of your question (comment)?

[baez578]

Originally Posted by Leon

I will go out on a limb and say it is to expose what and who he really is, if that is the nature of your question (comment)?

More or less Leon.

Its interesting to see someone with 3 posts comes on here throwing out questions on how Nash obtained certain memorabilia... Implying he perhaps stole them or bought them way under market value (at least I think)

Then, interestingly enough, he plugs his next concert.

I'm guessing that's an attempt at saying he's trying to pay his bills with what little celebrity he has left?

Just seems that OP knows much more and wanted to make Nash sweat a bit.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Matty C, couldn't agree more. But Masta Ace???? Please replace Masta Ace with Eric B and Rakim.... Thanks.

Oh most definitely EB and Rakim are in the pantheon-- among the greatest ever, right there at the top. My first gig was actually titled PAID IN FULL!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by baez578

More or less Leon.

Its interesting to see someone with 3 posts comes on here throwing out questions on how Nash obtained certain memorabilia... Implying he perhaps stole them or bought them way under market value (at least I think)

Then, interestingly enough, he plugs his next concert.

I'm guessing that's an attempt at saying he's trying to pay his bills with what little celebrity he has left?

Just seems that OP knows much more and wanted to make Nash sweat a bit.

Go to post #157....and there is so, so much more....this will help explain it...


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=171957&page=2

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Oh most definitely EB and Rakim are in the pantheon-- among the greatest ever, right there at the top. My first gig was actually titled PAID IN FULL!

You need to stay on topic here, we are talking about 3rd Bass songs

PS: I could listen to Don't Sweat the Technique and Know the Ledge over and over and never get tired of them

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

The OP has first hand knowledge of Mr. Nash's trade and is quite the collector. I guess we can expect Pete to address this and many others any day now on his website. I mean after all Pete is all about making the hobby a better place right?

Nice to see Pete's trademark cane was replaced by an umbrella from the clubs lost and found, keep on keeping it real Prime Minister Nash..

Yes he does.

[baez578]

Originally Posted by Leon

Go to post #157....and there is so, so much more....this will help explain it...


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=171957&page=2

Thanks and wow!

[Bpm0014]

My first tapes I ever bought (all at the same time) were: 3rd Bass, Eric B and Rakim, and the greatest rapper ever, D.O.C.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

My first tapes I ever bought (all at the same time) were: 3rd Bass, Eric B and Rakim, and the greatest rapper ever, D.O.C.

Really, you didn't have to buy anything after D.O.C. because he said no one could do it better. That is some title for a debut album!

[Runscott]

Out of morbid curiosity, I youtube'd 'Pop Goes the Weasel' and 'Gas Face'.

'Pop...' is kind of catchy, but 'Gas face' does nothing for me. 'Stink Face' might have been more interesting.

I watched the Arsenio version of 'Gas...' and found that Nash's band-mates were far more charismatic and interesting, and they had some rhythm. In both videos I felt that Nash was the weakest link in the band. Was he the guy fronting the money, so they had to let him in?

[MattyC]

I remember the first rap cut I really played to the tape wore out was Gang Starr's Wordz I Manifest (remix). It was playing on the radio in my pops' car.

That and The Bridge Is Over Live off a BDP tape. I also remember buying sick mix tapes on Astor Place on 8th St after getting haircuts downtown. That's how I first heard Eric B For Prez on one of those tapes.

Takes A Nation and Criminal Minded also were as large as it gets, alongside Follow The Leader, Paid In Full. And EPMD was right there, too.

[CharleyBrown]

Matt,

I knew you wrote Paid in Full, but didn't know you were a hip hop head (and that there were so many others posting here).

I'm more into 90s hip hop though - Smif N Wessun, Mobb Deep, Nas - still got love for the 80s crowd though.

[MattyC]

Mobb Deep is a personal favorite.

I'm also huge into Black Moon, Sean Price, Large Professor, Group Home, Jeru... I'm born in 76 so the 90's was primetime for me.

As to S&W...listening to Sound Buoy Bureill (the re-re-edit) right now!

"Now everybody wanna be Don Gaga..."

[GoldenAge50s]

1st thread I ever read on Net 54 that makes me GLAD I'm old!

[4815162342]

Net54 members are a varied and interesting bunch.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Mobb Deep is a personal favorite.

I'm also huge into Black Moon, Sean Price, Large Professor, Group Home, Jeru... I'm born in 76 so the 90's was primetime for me.

As to S&W...listening to Sound Buoy Bureill (the re-re-edit) right now!

"Now everybody wanna be Don Gaga..."

Mobb Deep is great, I go youtube surfing with their songs all the time. Almost always start with Burn

I'm also big on the Clipse for "newer" stuff, but usually stick to the 80's-early 90's stuff.

The first Wu-Tang album will always be my all-time favorite. I bought that tape three times and played each of them until they broke.

[Joe_G.]

You have surprised me John D. (and others). I thought I'd be the only one on the forum who followed early rap. I was very much into it as the 80s progressed and beyond. I was rather isolated from the music growing up in the Upper Peninsula of MI but became familiar with many of the groups through my complete run of RapMasters cassette tapes

Among my favorites . . . Beastie Boys (seen them in concert several times, sadly no more), EPMD, Eric B & Rakim, Doug E Fresh, MARRS (pump up the volume single), D Nice, and even some of the newer artists including Fat Boy Slim and others. Sadly, Columbia House took a chunk out of my OJ funds during my teenager years.

I apologize for the off topic reply but I couldn't resist.

[97manoftroy]

Wow I have to agree 100 % with Joe G. And I too apologize for going off topic but I Thought for sure I was probably the only one on the board who had a love for 90's hip hop. I'm born and raised in LA (USC grad fight on!) but my hip hop affinity was strictly east coast. Group Home/Tribe/LON'S/Wu/Helta Skelta. I have to say its a great and most pleasent surprise to know that fellow board members are hip hop fans as well as old cardboard junkies! Thanks Leon!

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

1st thread I ever read on Net 54 that makes me GLAD I'm old!

+1 (I'm a 1960's guy).

[slidekellyslide]

I'm just hoping an East Coast vs West Coast feud doesn't break out here on Net54.

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Mobb Deep is great, I go youtube surfing with their songs all the time. Almost always start with Burn

I'm also big on the Clipse for "newer" stuff, but usually stick to the 80's-early 90's stuff.

The first Wu-Tang album will always be my all-time favorite. I bought that tape three times and played each of them until they broke.

IMHO, 36 Chambers is one of the greatest records (and I'm all over the place musically)....ever (all genres).

An AMAZING record.

[Peter W Thomas]

60's guy also (college and HA), but today listening to Nina Simone and Robert Johnson