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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...or-155-million
Steve Wynn Picasso. I am sure many are aware or have read about this. Quote from the article "The restoration seems to be factored into the price," Beverly Schreiber Jacoby, valuation specialist and president of New York-based BSJ Fine Art, told Bloomberg. "If you didn't know that it has been damaged, you would not see it. It's superbly restored." If a painting can be fixed without leaving a trail I believe cards can too. |
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We then get in to a much larger discussion about whether TPG firms have the wan't or the resources to invest in greater technology. I don't know the answer. The general point and I believe you will agree is they are pretty good at it and good enough where Brent plans to hire someone to do it for customers. |
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I am only 40 and also have never gotten into art so I don't have any real perspective on that market. Was there a time when art restoration was frowned upon?
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Art is all unique. My understanding is that it's always been acceptable to conserve art, or restore if it's been damaged, as long as it's disclosed if there is a sale. Now if it's done to deceive rather than to genuinely conserve it for generations to come or restore it to enhance people's appreciation of it, then we're into baseball card land.
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We can then accept that any baseball card that looks Mint is Mint. It won't matter if it was restored, because nobody will know the difference. Maybe this will be the future look of the hobby. |
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The reason I always point to the ego driven nature of high grade cards is in my view that is what drives the spread. If you can solve for a humans desire to "have the best" or have something someone else can't then it will change. I just think that human behavior is pretty well established and grading differentiates what started out as very similar items. There is a big difference between a PSA 8 and a PSA 10. There are much smaller differences between a 9 and a 10. Probably the most liquid card that exists is the 86 Fleer Michael Jordan and under no circumstances will you ever see a card that is an 8 that looks as good as a 10. You easily could see one that is a 9 that does and I am sure some of the 10's started out as a 9. That said there are far too many collectors that get a thrill out of saying they have a 10. This isn't going to change. |
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And I must say that I'm not immune. I initially sent cards out for grading so they'd be easier to sell someday. (Maybe a good decision, maybe not... ) Along the way I ended up with a couple that are either the highest graded, or really close. I was a bit surprised that it mattered to me once I was there. |
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As long as there are people out there who will pay a multiple for each grade increment, we have the existing economic model. That's why this scandal won't have an impact broadly across the hobby but will have a deep impact : people who collect lesser condition cards, collect on a budget, etc., have no skin in this game.
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I actually believe the trimming/alterations could be a major factor in the price escalation. Suppose the trimmer is buying a psa 4 card that he is pretty confidant that he can make a psa 6, will he care what VCP says the value of the 4 is? I doubt it. It becomes a matter of his business model that he win that particular card. I will admit I haven’t looked to see how the prices paid for the pre-altered cards compared to the then market price of the card. My gut tells me they purchased for whatever it took within reason.
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Repairing a hole and making it look good sounds impressive to me. Removing a stain and having the cardboard look the same seems to have happened many times successfully and that is all I am getting at. Perhaps they are not similar enough of examples. Just was trying to convey that significant repair has taken place to items such as this. |
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