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Old 07-16-2019, 10:04 PM
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Default This psa Mathewson slab look off to anyone else?

This look off to anyone else??
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:33 AM
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Picture too small; you need to upload it to a different website and then link it using the yellow mountain icon above the text box.
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:45 AM
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Picture too small; you need to upload it to a different website and then link it using the yellow mountain icon above the text box.
This site will host them 3x-5x that big if done correctly. In the scan shown it is too hard to tell. For really large pics a different host site should be used.
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Old 07-17-2019, 07:12 AM
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:19 AM
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Based on the larger scan above, I would say that in my opinion, there are three possibilities:

1. The slab/flip itself is fake
2. The slab and flip are real; but the slab was opened, the original card was pulled out, a fake or worse condition card was inserted, and the slab was resealed
3. PSA made an egregious mistake in grading that card. There is no way, IMHO, that that particular card is anything higher than a 1. It has noticeable staining, damage in Matty's hair, and the top-right corner is missing. Who knows what the back looks like?

Either way, I would run far away from that card.

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Old 07-17-2019, 01:05 PM
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and nary a crease to be seen. Hmmmmm.
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The text on the label does not look correct. Also, the card is a PSA 1 at best. This reinforces the theory it's a fake label
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:28 PM
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A card very similar to it is on the PSA Website

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ction/2428710/



But I don't think it matches 100%, especially the corners
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A card very similar to it is on the PSA Website





But I don't think it matches 100%, especially the corners
That's definitely the same card.

According to the PSA website, it was just sold 4 months ago by Levi B at 707 Sportscards!

Here's another one that Goldin sold in 2013. It has a very similar missing top-right corner, but is infinitely better looking; and it was graded a "1" (correctly, IMHO):



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That's definitely the same card.

According to the PSA website, it was just sold 4 months ago by Levi B at 707 Sportscards!

Here's another one that Goldin sold in 2013. It has a very similar missing top-right corner, but is infinitely better looking; and it was graded a "1" (correctly, IMHO):



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Maybe Moser bought it to crack out and resubmit to PSA for a two grade bump based on what the 2 looks like. Lol Nothing like consistancy from PSA if both those examples are legit.
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