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Old 01-03-2016, 07:08 PM
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Default 1952 Topps autographed high # Karl Drews question

I was looking at a lot of 18 1952 topps cards high numbers and there was a autographed Karl Drews card with a autograph. Karl Drews died at the age of 43 in 1963. Im not an autograph guy but out of curiosity how much do you guys think this card is worth being a high number from 1952. Thank you in advance for your opinions.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:45 PM
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FWIW, there is only one listed as authenticated by PSA.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:53 PM
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Default Looks good to me it was not promoted well in the description

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-b...cAAOSwZ1lWelEl
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:55 PM
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The Sukeforth is also autographed. 4 of them on the PSA pop report.

http://www.psacard.com/pop/Detail.aspx?c=49722
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I'll chime in

I will use two valuation models:

Only one ever seen was sold before the "auto card craze" about 15 years ago for $1,000. Signed cards in general are up 100-150% over that time. Estimate $2000-2500


A signed 53 topps was recently sold by our esteemed Jim Stinson for $416. Probably a $4 card unsigned, and it is also a double print in that series. This added a 100X multiplier to the base card.

Now look at the 52 high series. The card sells for about $100-150 in vg-ex shape. This 100x multiplier would value the card at $10-15,000. While I don't believe this card would ever sell for that much, it is a scary thought for anyone attempting the set, assuming another even exists. I'd place it in the top 10, if not very close to the top 5 toughest cards in the set.


As far as Sukeforth, any 52 high number is very tough to find. Those who passed before the advent, and proliferation, of TTM autographs are infinitely tougher. That being said, the recent movie "42" demonstrates that "Sukey" was instrumental in signing Jackie Robinson. However, he also played a role in the 1954 draft of Roberto Clemente months after he moved FROM Brooklyn to Pittsburgh. Many of these legendary feats went unnoticed until the recent film, and I'd be surprised if many people had the forethought or means to write/send a 52 High number to him. He was also a coach at the time, and although there were, albeit very, kids writing to players TTM, I think the coaches might have been passed over.


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Copy with the name box erased hammered at $3383 in LOTG




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I was looking at a lot of 18 1952 topps cards high numbers and there was a autographed Karl Drews card with a autograph. Karl Drews died at the age of 43 in 1963. Im not an autograph guy but out of curiosity how much do you guys think this card is worth being a high number from 1952. Thank you in advance for your opinions.
I did not know that. Way too young.

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I'll chime in

I will use two valuation models:

Only one ever seen was sold before the "auto card craze" about 15 years ago for $1,000. Signed cards in general are up 100-150% over that time. Estimate $2000-2500


A signed 53 topps was recently sold by our esteemed Jim Stinson for $416. Probably a $4 card unsigned, and it is also a double print in that series. This added a 100X multiplier to the base card.

Now look at the 52 high series. The card sells for about $100-150 in vg-ex shape. This 100x multiplier would value the card at $10-15,000. While I don't believe this card would ever sell for that much, it is a scary thought for anyone attempting the set, assuming another even exists. I'd place it in the top 10, if not very close to the top 5 toughest cards in the set.


As far as Sukeforth, any 52 high number is very tough to find. Those who passed before the advent, and proliferation, of TTM autographs are infinitely tougher. That being said, the recent movie "42" demonstrates that "Sukey" was instrumental in signing Jackie Robinson. However, he also played a role in the 1954 draft of Roberto Clemente months after he moved FROM Brooklyn to Pittsburgh. Many of these legendary feats went unnoticed until the recent film, and I'd be surprised if many people had the forethought or means to write/send a 52 High number to him. He was also a coach at the time, and although there were, albeit very, kids writing to players TTM, I think the coaches might have been passed over.


Just my 2 cents, and worth what you paid for it!
Great info, Ted. I wasn't aware Sukeforth had such an influence/part in Robinson's or Clemente's careers.

The more I find out about the players/managers from my 52 Topps collection, the more I love them!

I noticed this morning, a signed Fannin didn't sell last night, but it did start at $2,500 (min bid)
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:27 AM
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Cant say I'm surprised by no bids at 2500 start

I'd have to think the original card in questiin would have to be over 5k based on last night's prices


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