B & L Auction is Up...and I have a question

barrysloate · #1 02-15-2010, 10:06 AM

Hey Scott and Leon- just gave your current auction a once over and it looks like there are a lot of very nice cards. Have a question regarding one lot:

What is the provenance of the Potted Plant scorecard that is part of Henry Chadwick's estate? Is that his handwriting on the scoring grid? That's a very significant scorecard as it is the first game played at Washington Park. Very impressive to say the least...I also saw the ad for Dreyer's Hats at 104 Court Street. That's a couple of blocks from where I live, so I'm going to take a walk over later to see what hats they currently have in stock.

One other note: this is the first time I have seen a slabbed tintype. I find that odd since they don't know the year, the player, or the team. What exactly are they authenticating? But it is a nice image.

Good luck to you both!

Leon · #2 02-15-2010, 10:16 AM

We just thought we would stick a lot of period stuff together and call it something completely different. It seems to work for others so we are giving it a go!! (just kidding)

Seriously, I will have to speak with Scott and the consignor to get the info on that piece (potted plant scorecard). It would never be our intention to mislead someone. As for the slabbed tintype the TPG (SGC) just used common sense based on uniforms and/or equipment, for dating, is what it seems like. The slab offers protection but most collectors of those items know what the are buying. We are very happy with the early baseball lots in this auction. They are neat to look at.

sb1 · #3 02-15-2010, 11:04 AM

I have an email in to the consignor seeking more information. I know it was purchased as being from the Chadwick estate, which as you know a large amount of material has been dispersed from. At this point we are only representing it as from the estate. The scoring does not match his handwriting exactly, however there appear to be two handwritings on the scorecard, some info may have been added after the fact to document the occasion. We will update with info as we can. We also welcome others input on this piece.

Scott

Orioles1954 · #4 02-15-2010, 11:06 AM

Under the "15 minute open rule" what times do your auctions typically close? Hopefully, it won't kill us easterners too much.

James

Leon · #5 02-15-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Under the "15 minute open rule" what times do your auctions typically close? Hopefully, it won't kill us easterners too much.

James

James- with the success in our last auction of doing an "open-ended" extended time it will probably mean a late finish again. As you well know auction houses work for consignors and I am quite sure a late finish is fine with them. We believe this is the fairest way to run an auction, though it's certainly debatable. If someone wants to bid on any item they will be able too. The last one finished around 3am CST and I would expect this one to be similar...OF course there are no guarantees.
The open ended rule means that you can still bid on a lot, in extended bidding, even if you did not bid on that lot before extended bidding started. Sorry I can't give an exact answer. BTW, a Canadian had the last bid in our last auction so you can blame our friends to the north

for that late finish. take care

sb1 · #6 02-15-2010, 11:16 AM

The last auction ended about 3:00 am. Others have ended closer to 12:30 a.m. I would say somewhere in that ballpark will be expected, but can not guarantee it. This open ended bidding has really been embraced by the bidders. In the event they get pushed past their limit on their main item of interest they can further pursue second or third items down their list.

Scott

Orioles1954 · #7 02-15-2010, 11:41 AM

Ok guys, thanks for the warning

WarHoundR69 · #8 02-16-2010, 08:46 AM

Some nice NonSport Stuff - good job Leon. I just registered & I'll be bidding on some lots.

Leon · #9 02-16-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WarHoundR69

Some nice NonSport Stuff - good job Leon. I just registered & I'll be bidding on some lots.

Thanks so much, WarhoundR69!!

I went ahead and merged this new thread with the one already going as I don't want to be a "ball hog". I also toned down my sales pitch

chris · #10 03-05-2010, 04:45 PM

Was anyone on the board able to identify if the handwriting on the scorecard was Henry Chadwick's?

Leon · #11 03-05-2010, 07:13 PM

I don't think the handwriting was ever confirmed as Chadwick's.

sb1 · #12 03-05-2010, 07:21 PM

While we were not able to conclusively state that the card was scored by Chadwick, there was some speculation that some of the notes were added later, perhaps by him. Again this is conjecture, I doubt that anyone that knows for certain will respond until after the auction ends, as they would not want to tip their hand.

Scott