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Old 05-10-2018, 08:28 AM
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Has the T206 Ty Cobb greenback topped out or does it still have room to grow...
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:33 AM
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I think it has, for now, and perhaps the Red will begin to surge. I’ve always preferred the Red, as its a bolder, stronger image, IMO.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:38 AM
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If I may, the whole thing is weird. While, setting aside the Wagner argument, Cobb is clearly the best player in arguably the most popular set of all time, there have always seemed to be enough of them of go around. I have all for in a condition that satisfies me (read low grade) but have been kind of surprised at the surge.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:14 AM
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While, setting aside the Wagner argument, Cobb is clearly the best player in arguably the most popular set of all time
That's not what clearly means. I'd take the greatest pitcher ever over the 4th(?) best hitter ever.
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That's not what clearly means. I'd take the greatest pitcher ever over the 4th(?) best hitter ever.
I wouldn't.
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That's not what clearly means. I'd take the greatest pitcher ever over the 4th(?) best hitter ever.
I think you could fairly rank Cobb anywhere from 2nd (behind Ruth) to 4th (behind Ruth Williams and Mays).

I don't think you could fairly rank Johnson behind anyone.

That said, pitchers are never going to approach hitters in terms of card values.
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Leon - My guess is that its the least pop and a portrait, so it checks all collector the boxes from player, type, scarcity characteristics. That said, I think the bat off shoulder aesthetically is his best card in the set.

Dmitry - Here is a good pop article on the T206 Cobb versions, there is more greens than people think...

https://prewarcards.com/2017/09/29/t...ckett-grading/

Ryan - Good comparison on the Ruth's. The (yellow) #53 is similar to the green cobb, but I personally like the one below better, I guess its the "bat off shoulder" version...but his bat is on his shoulder...
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I think you could fairly rank Cobb anywhere from 2nd (behind Ruth) to 4th (behind Ruth Williams and Mays).

I don't think you could fairly rank Johnson behind anyone.

That said, pitchers are never going to approach hitters in terms of card values.
I think Cobb is the greatest hitter in baseball history and that means better than ruth just look at the hof induction numbers. These votes had been cast right after these to greats careers just ended and cobb had more votes than ruth
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I think it has, for now, and perhaps the Red will begin to surge. I’ve always preferred the Red, as its a bolder, stronger image, IMO.
I have no idea on prices, but for me the Red is perhaps THE classic pre-war card.
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I hope they go down I need more
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I have no idea on prices, but for me the Red is perhaps THE classic pre-war card.
I like the green cobb but think it is at a fairly high point but, or course, no one knows for sure..
Red Cobby is a great and classic card. If I get another I want something other than a T206....probably a nice Coupon, as I used to own, but they too have soared.

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I bought my green before the jump so I'm perfectly happy with the current price point. BUT I have to say, I really don't understand how the Bat Off card isn't the most expensive of the bunch. In my opinion it is the most beautiful card in the set, let alone the most beautiful Cobb:

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I bought my green before the jump so I'm perfectly happy with the current price point. BUT I have to say, I really don't understand how the Bat Off card isn't the most expensive of the bunch. In my opinion it is the most beautiful card in the set, let alone the most beautiful Cobb:

agree! Great card!
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I think it has, for now, and perhaps the Red will begin to surge. I’ve always preferred the Red, as its a bolder, stronger image, IMO.
The problem with the red is that it's dead last in terms of scarcity (it's a super print, and there's more red Cobbs out there than any other T206 card).

That alone will hurt it's ability to be run up. There's enough (for now) to meet demand, and is preventing a similar huge run up - although it is still going up, just at a much slower pace.

The green port is 73rd out of 524 in scarcity, and is by far the hardest to find of the 4 Cobbs.
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The problem with the red is that it's dead last in terms of scarcity (it's a super print, and there's more red Cobbs out there than any other T206 card).

That alone will hurt it's ability to be run up. There's enough (for now) to meet demand, and is preventing a similar huge run up - although it is still going up, just at a much slower pace.

The green port is 73rd out of 524 in scarcity, and is by far the hardest to find of the 4 Cobbs.
I'll take your word as to the relative scarcity of the green, but "hardest"Cobb to find? Money aside, you can pick one up whenever you want - just hang out until you find the one you like the most.
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I'll take your word as to the relative scarcity of the green, but "hardest"Cobb to find? Money aside, you can pick one up whenever you want - just hang out until you find the one you like the most.
He qualified it by saying "of the 4 Cobbs". His statement is true, its the least supply of the 4 T206 Cobbs. Its obviously not the toughest of ANY Cobb card.
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He qualified it by saying "of the 4 Cobbs". His statement is true, its the least supply of the 4 T206 Cobbs. Its obviously not the toughest of ANY Cobb card.
Agreed - I could have phrased myself a bit better, although the title of THIS thread is about the greenie - so obviously I meant hardest of the Cobb T206s, and not 'any".

As an aside to the comments a few posts above, the bat off is my fave of the T206 Cobbs.

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I think there is an interesting parallel to the 1933 Goudey Ruths. There are 4 Cobb T206s and 4 Goudey Ruths. The Green Cobb is the most expensive and is most scarce. I am not a Goudey guy, but I am pretty sure the Yellow Ruth is the one to have, no? Why is that? Is it scarcity? And the Yellow Ruth just seems to go up and up -- has that topped out?
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