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Old 08-23-2019, 09:41 PM
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Default Anyone have a theory on this 1970 Topps charcoal hybrid?

I bought an eBay lot of Topps print error cards quite a while back just to get this card out of it which perplexed me. There have been discussions here about the 1970 Topps charcoal cards before, but I don't believe I ever saw any like this one.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:16 PM
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Just a guess without seeing much detail.

damaged sheet before that one, black gets printed to the blanket, but not the cardboard that's folded up. Next sheet is fine, image prints to blanket maybe slightly off from the previous sheet because of the damage. Black prints to sheet, but the corner gets two impressions slightly off which makes the dot size of the halftone larger and that makes it appear darker.

If you look at the area you should see dots doubled a bit.

If not, then my guess is probably wrong. (It's a long shot, but if the dots got double inked in the same exact spot they could spread from overinking without appearing doubled. )
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:23 PM
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Great card Cliff.
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Old 08-27-2019, 02:26 PM
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What about sun faded? The whole card was originally charcoal colored but sun faded that card over time, except for one corner that was covered up.

Not sure if that theory holds water or not. But another possible explanation.
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:46 PM
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I don't think sun fading would explain the white border between the two areas.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:08 PM
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I will try to make a better scan of the area, but it definitely has a white line separating the charcoal corner from the rest of the normal gray.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:35 PM
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Cliff that is really cool!
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:35 PM
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Never seen one like this, that is a really unique and great looking defect
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:21 PM
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This is the best I can do, either a crappy scanner or I don't know what I'm doing. ETA, the card has a normal back and I never could find a scan of an uncut sheet of this 1970 series to see where the card was placed on the sheet.
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I'm not sure if I'm repeating what Steve already said, but my basic guess would be that the lower left corner of the sheet on top of the one containing this card was 'missing' (for lack of a better word) and the ink got printed on this sheet by falling through the cracks, so to speak (just in the missing corner). Then the sheet itself was printed and that corner (aligned perfectly, because nothing changed between the printing of the sheets) was double printed, causing the charcoal look to it. Seems very plausible.
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Glad we solved that. Now explain this one:

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Old 08-28-2019, 06:11 AM
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LSD was popular in 1970...Just speculation though......
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Ying and Yang ?
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Glad we solved that. Now explain this one:

Sorry, I don't follow. I don't see any problem.

There is nothing wrong with your set. We control the horizontal...
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Glad we solved that. Now explain this one:

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