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1967 mantle punchouts
psa finally acknowledged the 2 lineups
and then 2 days later they change their mind and will no longer label them so i will always have 1 of 1s and the highest graded Last edited by sflayank; 08-19-2015 at 07:20 PM. |
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Very nice cards. I am surprised they won't at least recognize the background variations.
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Mantle Master Set - as complete as it is going to get Yankees Game Used Hat Style Run (1923-2017): 57/60 (missing 2008/9 holiday hats & 2017 Players Weekend) |
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Punchouts
Larry,
What reason was given? Just curious. Nice cards.... Z |
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As noted, nice cards but the stripping of detail makes no sense.
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67 punchout
no reason given
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1967
SCD does list the pose/background captain variations for Mantle, Clemente, F Robinson and Alou. Does PSA have those in it's master CL ? I only pursued those and not the lineups like Larry. Have to have some limits A Killebrew collector on CU had also mentioned their change of position on the lineups
Larry-- do you still need any of the line up differences ? Also, any other captain variants your are aware of ? Last edited by ALR-bishop; 08-20-2015 at 07:57 AM. |
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67 punchout
198 different lineups
i believe im still missing 1 that i misplaced or sold or traded by accident its either a bobby knoop or a george scott |
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Wow
Even the PSA captains checklist is messed up. They list a captain checklist of 92, which includes 91 different captains and two variations of Mantle. I think Larry and I have 86 different captains and believe Campaneris, Gibson, Grote, McMillan, and B Robinson (all included in the PSA checklist) do not exist. I think Bob Lemke and SCD concur.
On the other hand, the Mantle variation ( background not pose) is less striking than the Alou, F Robinson and Clemente pose variations ( Robinson appears in different team uniforms), and should be listed Unless Larry knows of another captain variation, the PSA, and CL should likely be 90. Also, no one on the Registry has a full set of captains, although if the 5 non existent players are removed, the two guys with sets get closer Last edited by ALR-bishop; 08-20-2015 at 02:45 PM. |
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punchouts
i dont go by cropping variations
i count lineups all cropping variations have different lineups there are 86 captains only.. and either 1 2 3 or 4 lineups for that captain as listed in the book...so psa can easily label the holder as they did no reason not to |
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91
Since I do not do all the lineups I will be satisfied with 86 captains and 4 captain variations. I have 89, missing the 2nd Cemente
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punchouts
the robinson and alou obviously should be listed separately
different team different pose mantle is just cropping |
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Cropping
Agree on the Mantle but PSA and SCD list them both. I do not have both Clementes but having seen them the angles look different. Is it just a crop difference too ?
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punchout
yep...in one you can see part of stadium not in the other
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