the list (of criminals) is revealed

[terjung]

Thank you to those who have voiced their support of BST Auctions. We do not take lightly the trust that has been placed in us. With our catalog now prepared to mail this Tuesday, we have a moment to breathe and to again address this critically important issue that affects the entire hobby.

Andy, John and I have been collectors for years, bidding in the same auctions as many of you here. We too are repulsed by the criminal activity that has been permitted to permeate this hobby for entirely too long. Any auction house owner can tell you that nothing shady is going on behind the scenes. I strongly suspect that those convicted of criminal activity would have said the exact same thing. To us, lip service wasn’t good enough.

So, we contracted with our service provider to have a way to communicate to our bidders that their max bids and passwords would be known to them alone. In short, we built the accountability into our software and are proud to display the True Bid™ seal that demonstrates to our bidders that we cannot see the amount of any max bids placed or any passwords.

Stated another way, we didn’t want our bidders to have to hope that we couldn’t see max bids and/or passwords or to hope that the conversation came up on a message forum so that we could answer the question. We took the step to answer the question before it was asked, contracted to have the True Bid™ system, and proudly display its logo.

Our preview will go live this Friday, February 20 and will open a week later. Keep your eyes open for catalogs for this March 19 auction to arrive in your mailbox! We have been told numerous times that we need to offer a second auction each year. BST Auctions is listening and we will have a Fall auction starting this year! Thank you again for all your support and trust.

Sincerely,
Brian Terjung

www.BST-Auctions.com

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by terjung

Thank you to those who have voiced their support of BST Auctions. We do not take lightly the trust that has been placed in us. With our catalog now prepared to mail this Tuesday, we have a moment to breathe and to again address this critically important issue that affects the entire hobby.

Andy, John and I have been collectors for years, bidding in the same auctions as many of you here. We too are repulsed by the criminal activity that has been permitted to permeate this hobby for entirely too long. Any auction house owner can tell you that nothing shady is going on behind the scenes. I strongly suspect that those convicted of criminal activity would have said the exact same thing. To us, lip service wasn’t good enough.

So, we contracted with our service provider to have a way to communicate to our bidders that their max bids and passwords would be known to them alone. In short, we built the accountability into our software and are proud to display the True Bid™ seal that demonstrates to our bidders that we cannot see the amount of any max bids placed or any passwords.

Stated another way, we didn’t want our bidders to have to hope that we couldn’t see max bids and/or passwords or to hope that the conversation came up on a message forum so that we could answer the question. We took the step to answer the question before it was asked, contracted to have the True Bid™ system, and proudly display its logo.

Our preview will go live this Friday, February 20 and will open a week later. Keep your eyes open for catalogs for this March 19 auction to arrive in your mailbox! We have been told numerous times that we need to offer a second auction each year. BST Auctions is listening and we will have a Fall auction starting this year! Thank you again for all your support and trust.

Sincerely,
Brian Terjung

www.BST-Auctions.com

[h2oya311]

This thread is almost on page 2. That simply cannot happen. BUMP!

This needs to stay at the forefront of everyone's attention for at least a month! The original post was made in late January.

[botn]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

This thread is almost on page 2. That simply cannot happen. BUMP!

This needs to stay at the forefront of everyone's attention for at least a month! The original post was made in late January.

Or at least until people like Kenny Goldin, JC Clarke, Dave Forman, Pete Calderone and others who are members here or represent advertisers make a post explaining the inclusion of their names on the list.

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by botn

Or at least until people like Kenny Goldin, JC Clarke, Dave Forman, Pete Calderone and others who are members here or represent advertisers make a post explaining the inclusion of their names on the list.

Or everybody here just agrees not to do business with those who aren't willing to justify their actions ...

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Or everybody here just agrees not to do business with those who aren't willing to justify their actions ...

It doesn't seem like that is occurring in the case of Goldin Auctions.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Shoebox

It doesn't seem like that is occurring in the case of Goldin Auctions.

'Stuff' trumps morals.

As I stated earlier in this thread (and other threads too), I refuse to buy from Probstein because he allows shilling in his auctions. If everybody took that stance, it would drive these people out of business. But I don't see that happening. Funny, but I bet some of those that complain about shilling the most will still continue to do business with these folks.

[WindyCityGameUsed]

Originally Posted by botn

Or at least until people like Kenny Goldin, JC Clarke, Dave Forman, Pete Calderone and others who are members here or represent advertisers make a post explaining the inclusion of their names on the list.

IMO no public admittance of wrong doing/associated guilt will ever be forth coming from any individual named on the list who derives their living from what we call a hobby but is strictly business for them.

I can't imagine a scenario at this point where these individuals are going to volunteer of their own accord to go on record with past transgressions so their statements can be used against them in a court of law down the road when their time/day comes.

It's a sick & twisted business that we support that is 90% devoid of any morals, conscience and integrity.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by WindyCityGameUsed

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It's a sick & twisted business that we support that is 90% devoid of any morals, conscience and integrity.

It is not 90%, not even close. I'm sickened by the shilling epidemic as much as every other collector and moral dealer out there, but to say that evil makes up 90% of the hobby is ridiculous. I believe there is a much higher percentage of good than evil.

[SMPEP]

Evil will always triumph over good ... because good is dumb

[mickeymao34]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

It is not 90%, not even close. I'm sickened by the shilling epidemic as much as every other collector and moral dealer out there, but to say the evil make up 90% of the hobby is ridiculous. I believe there is a much higher percentage of good than evil.

I wouldn't say 90% in Card collecting hobby but I would agree with Ron in the Game used Market for sure. Today's standard seem to be Not that if it is worn an authentic, rather the perception that it is worn. Cards are hardly faked, maybe altered but you know it is what it is. But nothing worse than spending thousands on a game used item with a question mark.