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Kirk,
It's funny you mention this cause I just ran across this guys stuff about an hour ago. How about the Satchel Paige......... It's not often you get to see some forged 5$ autos. |
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yeah i came upon the paige , then when i saw it was bad clicked on other items but look at completed listings he had walter briggs , rather tough more like a 300.00 item gabby street joe judge , alot of guys that died in the 50`s and 60`s. good stuff but not something that will get you nabbed. most of them are only maybe 2 or 3 certed ones on ebay. mix in a bunch of easy hof 3x5`s , then move up to a fake lloyd waner , and just listed connie mack , paige etc, then he gets noticed, those other guys i would all buy but i dont search for them ever. it was just a funny pattern , but even if those guys were real, running them in a auction isnt likely to bring good money, well i guess it is real good money when you do them yourself. the pencil deal pointed out is interesting
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Hi Guys, my name is Adam Bonfiglio. I am the eBay user that you are discussing in this thread. This is obviously an uncomfortable situation, but I felt it would be best to tell things from my perspective, rather than hide and not say anything. First and foremost, I am a collector first. I have been collecting since February of 1976. I have the upmost respect for the hobby and other collectors who share the enjoyment. I have been selling items on eBay, shows and through mailing lists for over 20 years to supplement my collection. I have 26,241 baseball autographs in my collection. 8893 different players. That does not include umpires, execs, AAGPBL, broadcasters, etc.
I do not sell any autographs that I do not already have in my collection. I buy collections of any size and individual autographs and have been doing so for years. I look to upgrade those of lesser quality and then sell the placeholder. Look, I know as well as you do that there are literally thousands of fake autographs on eBay and throughout the hobby. The facts are well documented. However, I would NEVER intentionally list an item that I thought was fake! I have purchased items, even a few with fancy PSA and JSA LOA's, that have been found to be not authentic. I don't like when that happens to me, so I certainly wouldn't do that to others. There is no doubt that some of the items I have listed may not be real, but not to my knowledge. I'm sure there are many fakes that are offered by many other respected sellers as well! Unfortunately, that's just the nature of the hobby. Maybe I don't take the time that I should to examine the autographs more thoroughly, (Incidentally, the Waner autograph has been removed from my listing),but to suggest that I am forging the autographs is very upsetting. I have a good job, with benefits. I have a wonderful wife and 2 beautiful boys. I am an honest, hard-working, middle-class citizen. I don't need extra money. My life is good. I simply enjoy the hobby. I don't want to sound defensive, but I wanted to tell things from my end. I wish there was something I could do or say to prove all of this to you. I'm open to suggestions. I don't want you to think that this is all BS. I know eBay seller rating doesn't necessarily mean much, but it is 100%. I have a great deal of friends that I have made through the hobby that can vouch for my credibility. If you'd like to call me to discuss this further, please feel free to do so. 862 881-0309. Thanks, Adam |
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"There is no doubt that some of the items I have listed may not be real"
If this is the case, then why not state this in the auction description? Let people know that you're not personally any kind of autograph expert, and there is a chance that the autograph is fake. Now, I would agree that you don't HAVE to do this, but if you're so concerned about your reputation, then what would it hurt? |
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Just my two cents, I once bought a Musial from Adam that was real (albeit under a different ebay handle, adababy5). A different time I bought a Harry Caray that in my hands was pretty obviously fake and got rejected by JSA. Adam refunded my money (but not the JSA fee). That having been said I highly doubt Adam is forging them himself - I was on a mailing list of his for a while and just the sheer volume he has would take him too long to do. But, I'm sure fakes slip in and it doesn't seem like they're vetted properly.
Not defending either side here, just giving some perspective as someone who dealt with the person in the past. -David |
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Very good point, Scott, but I'm contending that with the way things are in the hobby, that literally EVERYBODY may have items for sale that may be fake. Again, there are well-documented cases where even the most highly-regarded authenticators have sold items that were not real. All I can do is try to get you all to understand that I am not purposely selling fake autographs and I am CERTAINLY not creating them. I can't prove it, but I can only hope that you will see me as genuine.
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nevermind.
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$co++ Forre$+ Last edited by Runscott; 01-17-2017 at 10:23 AM. |
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it always comes back to somebody saying i can show you a link to a article where ...fill in the blank... has shown some third party has made a mistake... this is to show that really it was honest that they dont know what they are doing or to use as a cover for getting caught doing it. not my first rodeo. except this one came with all american resume, , sooo the cats out of the bag , seller has 80% of the items listed that are bad, and 80% of the items sold are bad , off the top paige mack and combs as hofers over 100-200 are at the top bad. so now that the whole operation has been outed . whatcha do? this is a simple deal, first thing if you arent going to remove all of them , you would have been better off never responding on here , just let it drift down the page and not list anymore hofers over 20.00 .that goes also on resume as dumb move. i buy so many autographs and collections , have for years , and if you have been doing it for 40 years , it would be impossible not to know this many were bad, the same pattern goes all the way back to fake bob moose and mike miley in october and the real duke snider sold the same time. just not possible of a scenario for this to play out as a victim .should have left off paige , got too greedy
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ohh an you really want the kicker , the tell tell sign look at the bidders on the items
private listing - bidders' identities protected all items sold |
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Not to hijack the thread… But Kirk why do you never respond to questions on eBay? I send you questions about items all the time and never get a response. Just wondering.
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I hate that Ebay allows "Private Listing/Bidders Identities Protected." While he's selling forgeries, he's purchasing authentic autographs from Jim Stinson. Check his "Feedback As A Buyer." Back in the day, when I was exposing a ton of sellers on Ebay for selling forgeries, I observed 25% of them were using the funds from their sales of forgeries to purchase authentic autographs from UDA, Steiner Sports, etc. Last edited by thetruthisoutthere; 01-18-2017 at 04:15 PM. |
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