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Old 07-07-2018, 12:55 PM
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Default Did I make a tactical grading mistake with an autographed card?

I am not a collector of autographs. But I did have a vintage one in my collection that I wanted to be authenticated/encapsulated. I got the card back from PSA and they authenticated and graded the signature. Everything good so far.

Here is my question. Evidently when I was submitting, being unfamiliar with the grading of cards with signatures, I did not request the card to be graded. What I received on the label does not indicate that it is an authentic 1929 Zeenut card, but instead just as 'Trading Card'. Will the fact that it is not identified on the label as an authentic 1929 Zeenut card hurt the value and diminish bidding activity if I were to send it to an auction house? Would collectors believe it to be a reprint?

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Old 07-07-2018, 01:28 PM
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Ehh, people have made worse mistakes. If it's real though, it's real. And, I can't imagine that there are many-if any-players that appeared in that set that lived to the reprint era.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:38 PM
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Ehh, people have made worse mistakes. If it's real though, it's real. And, I can't imagine that there are many-if any-players that appeared in that set that lived to the reprint era.
The card is 100% authentic. I thought that I was just not getting the card with a numerical grade, as it does not have a coupon and is lower (but decent) condition, and that it might not get anything higher than an authentic. The player lived into the 1980's, and the signature is with a black sharpie, so definitely signed later in life.

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Old 07-07-2018, 05:30 PM
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Not a tactical mistake. Their blue flips no longer designate the card. If you want to add the card grading or authentication, it's not much more. But I don't think it will affect the sales price much.
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:15 PM
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You wouldn't have been the only one. I don't follow the blue/red flips, but would have assumed, grade or not, that the card would be listed on the flip. Obviously, that would have been my ignorance not their fault-- bit it would be nice to have the card listed on the label.

Duly note that if you do consign it through one of the big auction houses they will list it as and testify that is an authentic Zeenut and that should suffice for sale. If REA or whomever says the card itself is authentic, that will be enough for buyers.

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Old 07-07-2018, 08:04 PM
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If it were my card I'd probably send it back and get it in a red flip. Especially if it will get a numerical card grade above authentic.
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I admit, this thread just taught me the difference between red and blue flips. Never had a clue.
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Red flips can be added to the PSA set registry, blue flips cannot.

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Red Flips: Card is authentic or graded, and PSA/DNA has certified the autograph. Auto could also be graded through newish "Dual Authentication" program. Red flips can be used in autograph sets on the PSA Set Registry side, like 1952 Topps Autographed or 1933 Goudey autographed. However, they cannot be used in the regular 1952 Topps set or player sets since the original card wasn't autographed.

Blue Flips: Only auto is authenticated. Can only be used in PSA/DNA Set Registry for "auto on any medium."
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I admit, this thread just taught me the difference between red and blue flips. Never had a clue.
The red flips on signed cards are relatively new. Maybe the last year or so.
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