Pre War Era Players you don't see in HOF discussions

[GeoPoto]

"Another Ohtani prototype that’s pretty much lost to history is Dave Foutz."

If we are letting in early Ohtani/Ruth competitors for "all-around" honors:

John "Needles" Bentley. Pitcher with the Washington Senators in 1913-1916. 46 wins and 8 saves in 9 MLB seasons. His most productive season was 1924 with the New York Giants as he posted a 16-5 record with a 3.78 ERA in 188 innings pitched. Was a good hitter with a career OBP of .316 in 616 plate appearances. Gave up World Series winning-ground ball single to McNeely in the 1924 "pebble" game.

In his first two seasons with the Baltimore Orioles of the International League, 1917 and 1919 (he was in the US Army in 1918), with the exception of a lone pitching appearance in his first year, Bentley played exclusively at first base and in the outfield: In 185 games, he posted averages of .333 batting and .510 slugging. Then he really caught fire. From 1920 to 1922, Bentley’s numbers were staggering, as he batted .378 in 439 games, scored 340 runs, drove in 399, and had a slugging average of an astounding .590. In both 1920 (161) and 1921 (120), Bentley led the league in RBIs; in 1921, he won the league Triple Crown, batting .412 (the league’s highest season average in the 20th century), with 24 home runs and 120 RBIs. His 246 hits that season remain the league’s single-season record.

Yet Bentley continued to pitch when needed, and those results, too, were staggering. From 1920 through 1922, Bentley pitched in 56 games and produced a 41-6 record, a winning percentage of .872: in both 1921 (.923) and 1922 (.867), he led the league in that category. In 1920 (2.10) and 1922 (1.73), Bentley also led the league in ERA, and over three seasons his ERA was an astounding 2.07. During those years, by virtue of his performance both at the plate and on the mound, the press bestowed on Bentley the moniker "Babe Ruth of the Minors".

[G1911]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

"Another Ohtani prototype that’s pretty much lost to history is Dave Foutz."

If we are letting in early Ohtani/Ruth competitors for "all-around" honors:

John "Needles" Bentley.

He won 46 games with a below average ERA. He played a total of 62 games in a non-[itcher role and posted an OPS+ also below the league average. Career value: 5.9 WAR.

He is not a candidate whatsoever.

[packs]

I mentioned Dave Foutz because he had a full major league career as a two way player. I don’t think I’m just throwing anyone’s name around who hit and pitched.

[GeoPoto]

"He is not a candidate whatsoever."

Good point. I was going for "interesting post" more than "winning hand". Assuming you read my post and not just the name of the candidate, I conclude that I missed the mark. I'll try not to make the same mistake again.

And Packs, I apologize for getting you involved. I didn't mean to imply that you were throwing names around, just because I was.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

"He is not a candidate whatsoever."

Good point. I was going for "interesting post" more than "winning hand". Assuming you read my post and not just the name of the candidate, I conclude that I missed the mark. I'll try not to make the same mistake again.

And Packs, I apologize for getting you involved. I didn't mean to imply that you were throwing names around, just because I was.

Yes, I read the post, thanks for checking. I even quoted the part of the post where you seem to propose him as a candidate. You quoted Packs Foutz post, a legitimate candidate, and replied

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

If we are letting in early Ohtani/Ruth competitors for "all-around" honors:

If we are not talking about letting Bentley into the Hall of Fame, what are you talking about letting him into?

The rest of your post is just copied and pasted text from his SABR bio without an attribution.