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Old 07-17-2018, 12:03 AM
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Default 1888 DARTMOUTH solved

I came across this today and I know that this is 1884 Dartmouth now

https://libarchive.dartmouth.edu/cdm...id/13674/rec/6



Help needed Identifying this team/players. I posted about the poly institute and orphan boys (Wagner/Jackson). I have my dad’s tobacco era through dead ball era collection and I’m trying to identify these pieces. He died when I was a kid and he left his collection to me. His collection means the world to me and I’m not trying to gain attention or money from it. I am just trying to make sense of his notes as well as the items that he left me. please click the link below for the picture and my research. The second link is information about 1884 quick steps. I went with this because I began researching the D which led me to Delaware which led me to quick steps which led me to Dan Casey. The man sitting in the middle definitely does resemble him

My photo cabinet that I own is on the second and third page of the first doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hM9vOK4TgC-k-0

1884 quicksteps information

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...FFBShD9bt4RbW8

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Old 07-17-2018, 12:37 AM
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I’m a little confused by some of the information that is presented but as far as the team image with what may be a “D” on the uniform, it definitely appears to be an 1880’s team considering the uniforms and the type of albumen image. Likely a team from California considering the address stamp that’s on it.

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P.S. Likely a college team or town team considering there are only ten players and a coach. However, it is a well funded team considering the quality of their uniforms.

Edited to add that I appear to like the word “considering”.

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Old 07-17-2018, 01:26 AM
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I’m a little confused by some of the information that is presented but as far as the team image with what may be a “D” on the uniform, it definitely appears to be an 1880’s team considering the uniforms and the type of albumen image. Likely a team from California considering the address stamp that’s on it.

Rob M

P.S. Likely a college team or town team considering there are only ten players and a coach. However, it is a well funded team considering the quality of their uniforms.

Edited to add that I appear to like the word “considering”.

Thank you for your response! I appreciate that you payed attention to the detail in my documents. There’s a receipt for framing in my dads old things. I think he had it framed there. Any insight helps!
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:50 AM
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No Detroit Tigers connection, sorry. The photo comparisons are all wrong. I may be misunderstanding what you are asking but no way are Cobb or any other Tigers in that photo.
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To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:15 AM
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Leon, that's a good method. When someone posts a photo and mentions a big name player, the first thing I do is look for someone in the photo who resembles that person - before looking at who the owner thinks is the person. In the case of the last pic he posted I didn't even pick the correct Jackson candidate.

Lots of nice photos.

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To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 01:17 PM
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The individual identities are off, but they're all nice baseball photos.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:57 PM
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According to my uniform database the 1884 Wilmington Quicksteps wore light gray uniforms and caps with Purple Stockings and trimmings. So I don't think the photo is the Wilmington team.
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Ty Cobb isn't in any of the photos.

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No Detroit Tigers connection, sorry. The photo comparisons are all wrong. I may be misunderstanding what you are asking but no way are Cobb or any other Tigers in that photo.
I was thinking Dan Casey. Thoughts?
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