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Old 01-17-2009, 06:06 AM
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Posted By: Greg

I have a few nice GAI that I'm considering as candidates for crossovers to PSA. Any success getting PSA to keep the grades from GAI? Should I crack them and send them over? Seems risky but may be worth it...how do GAI cards typically do?

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:13 AM
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Posted By: Steve F

Personally, I'd crack 'em out and send in raw.

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:17 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I've had little to no success on crossing GAI to PSA with the same grade.

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Old 01-17-2009, 06:39 AM
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Posted By: Greg

Is there an easy way to crack em? Any advice? I would hate to damage these cards.

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Old 01-17-2009, 08:03 AM
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Posted By: Peter

I sent in 25 cards to PSA for crossover recently and was very disapointed with the results.



6 GAI cards - 2 crossed over and 4 rejected

(I was willing to take min. grades of .5-1 less)



13 SGC cards - 7 crossed over and 6 rejected (largest value cards all rejected)

(I wanted equal grades for them)



4 Beckett cards - 3 crossed over and 1 rejected as trimmed (large value card rejected as being trimmed and I do not believe it is - grader error)

(I wanted equal grades for them)



2 other - both rejected

(the 1 I would take any PSA grade was rejected as trimmed.



The most disapointing aspect to me in this process was the fact that they would not cross over 6 of my SGC cards to an equal grade. Is PSA superior to SGC in determining a cards true grade? All of the higher value cards in this submission were rejected for crossover ($800 - $1850 USD value cards).



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Old 01-17-2009, 08:22 AM
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Posted By: Fred C

Peter, not that I would give PSA credit for anything, but... were the SGC graded cards severely off centered?

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Old 01-17-2009, 08:41 AM
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Posted By: Eric Brehm

Here is my history of crossover attempts to PSA:

From SGC to PSA:

(1) SGC 96 (9) crossed to PSA 9
(2) SGC 96 (9) crossed to PSA 9
(3) SGC 96 (9) returned - did not meet min grade 8.5
(4) SGC 96 (9) downgraded to PSA 8
(5) SGC 88 (8) returned - altered
(6) SGC 88 (8) returned - did not meet min grade 8
(7) SGC 88 (8) returned - did not meet min grade 8
(8) SGC 88 (8) downgraded to PSA 7
(9) SGC 84 (7) downgraded to PSA 6
(10) SGC 60 (5) downgraded to PSA 4.5

From GAI to PSA:

(1) GAI 9.5 returned - altered
(2) GAI 9.5 returned - altered

From BVG to PSA:

(1) BVG 6 returned - altered

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Old 01-17-2009, 08:57 AM
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Posted By: Peter

Fred C. - I have 4 of them lying handy (of these 2 of the SGC cards I would say are very close to 50/50 centering, highest value card (of these 4) is 50/50 top-to-bottom and it is exactly 57/43 left to right - just measured) and last of these is 50/50 top-to-bottom and 30/70 left to right.

I find it odd that the highest value cards would not cross over and the lower value ones did. I just cannot understand why PSA is superior to SGC in determining a cards true value - CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THIS - do they have the finest graders in the world? Is their methodology, QC control and rigid attention to detail better than SGC's? Are they de-valuing SGC cards in the market place by doing this - seems so?

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Old 01-17-2009, 09:03 AM
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Posted By: Fred C

Peter,

What were the cards that did not cross?

PSA with superior grading? I'm guessing you're being sarcastic or you're working on a comedy routine.

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Old 01-17-2009, 09:05 AM
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Posted By: Peter

Thank you for sharing your cross over results as well - it seems like PSA is again saying that SGC, GAI and BVG are inferior and not at all up to their standards. At least your high value cards were crossed over - congrats on that!

Problem is once you are hooked into their registry and need PSA cards, it is almost not worth buying SGC cards that come up (or BVG) for anywhere near the VCP as PSA is only going to cross at best 50% of them over. I am not happy about this.

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