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Old 07-05-2017, 02:26 PM
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If I paid for a Dak auto or I bought a box of Panini because I wanted to pull the Dak auto, and the Dak auto provided by the player is a false signature, haven't I been defrauded?
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Old 07-05-2017, 02:44 PM
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WaPo has picked up story. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6a665ce68969

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That sucks as a Cowboys fan, but maybe this will help rid the hobby of panini and the junk they mass produce. Bring back Topps football
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Old 07-06-2017, 11:39 AM
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All of the signatures look exactly the same but were signed in different areas of the card. What a disgrace. Isn't this fraud? If he was paid, wouldn't this amount to wire fraud?
But they're not exactly the same. Unless autopens have gotten way more advanced that would mean he used at least four of them.
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:07 PM
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Does it? All machinery acquires defects through usage. It could just be imperfections created by prolonged use.
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:47 PM
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If I paid for a Dak auto or I bought a box of Panini because I wanted to pull the Dak auto, and the Dak auto provided by the player is a false signature, haven't I been defrauded?
I am sure they will let you return the item for a real one or just give your money back.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:40 PM
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Sig is too elaborate that is a giveaway. Need a barely legible first and last initial with a little horizontal tail to look real these days.
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Does it? All machinery acquires defects through usage. It could just be imperfections created by prolonged use.
One of the sigs is larger than the others, and the entrance and exit from the D is different on all four. I can see the slight differences being machine wear if he's used it a ton, and modern ones are apparently computer controlled, so it could be some sort of difference in how the machine ran over time. But even cheap stuff like printers are pretty durable and accurate.

On the other hand, I also can't see someone being that consistent in overall size and placing of the number in what looks like the exact same spot relative to the rest of it.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:58 AM
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I know this is football specifically but this is just unreal. Another reason to be skeptical about modern collecting. http://www.sportscardradio.com/dak-p...topen-scandal/

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This was an interesting interview/discussion about this.

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