Question on the threads

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Posted By: leon

Unfortunately I have begun to doubt myself a little bit with the reactions I get from folks on the board. What I think is common sense others disagree with. I honestly can't believe some of the absurd (to me) reactions from folks I respect about issues the last few days. So, should I delete those 2 threads? Unfortunately I kind of think they were questions that could at least be asked. Doesn't the board want it to be open? 1st Amendment rights? I am not trying to start anything here...I like Dave a lot and I thought the questions were out of line but they were questions pertaining to the hobby by someone that had their name by them with an email address.....Dave gets my full support....

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Posted By: Zinn

I think the threads should be deleted. Once the poster has edited out the content it makes the thread meaningless.

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Had the poster not gone anonymous and had not deleted the content I don't think the thread should have been locked much less deleted.

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Posted By: Chris Bland

If the guy puts his name and e-mail in his post and asks a legitimate (even if unpopular) question about someone, I dont see why it should be deleted. The popularity of the board member being questioned shouldnt factor in with the decision IMO.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Yes, Leon, delete them. This is my last post. Sorry again for any trouble I may have caused. I still feel very strongly about Dave F. spamming though.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Leon, I still think you do an great job running this board and you did the right thing by locking up those two threads. I could almost understand leaving them up, but when it comes from a lurker that nobody apparently knows he should get no leeway whatsoever when it comes to starting controversial threads.

And for the record I don't think Dave spams the board. Like most of us he works his collection by selling stuff and he doesn't really have a focus so he goes after what he likes and that means you got to sell stuff to buy stuff. What's the big deal?

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Posted By: Dave F

Leon-

My thoughts...I don't care if you really leave them up or not. However...the one about me does do what I didn't intend..which was out the auction! It was in plain sight to begin with..anybody that would have missed it I dont know how...but this guy started the thread saying it was on ebay. I never intended for that.

The only reason I asked about the pop report was in case I did have the facts wrong..didnt want the wrong thing listed on the auction and someone have problems with it after they won it. I guess I should have left it be....

But, I don't care either way if it gets deleted or not...you can't make every happy and you can't make everyone like you..

Dave

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Posted By: leon

I want to see how this plays out. I really don't know anymore. I used to think I knew the difference between right and wrong but not so sure anymore..Especially if someone supports a website and the owner is cruel to animals....I thought that question was at least acceptable to ask...but again, I don't know anymore....I will take more guidance from the board...

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Posted By: Anonymous

PLEASE DISREGARD MY MESSAGE...THANK YOU

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Posted By: Dave F

Matt-

By all means call and dicuss it with me. Email me directly for the number.

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Posted By: leon

I hope everyone sees that no matter what I ever do on this board I will have people not liking me, or my decision. I could say the sky is up and 7 people would tell me I am crazy.....This high paying job ain't so fun sometimes. I am always wrong to some folks....

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Please Leon...that was an absurd question. I don't like the way Rupert Murdoch runs his Fox News corp but I still watch the Simpsons.

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Posted By: leon

Sorry I have to ask but which question? You can already see the split about deleting, censoring, or locking the threads....This is actually sort of interesting to see how folks feel....

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Trying to associate Rob Lifson with Chicken fighting because the owner of a forum partakes in it is absurd.

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Posted By: Tony Andrea

Leon -
My opinion is this. As much as I agree that the two posts were inappropriate
I think the people on the board like myself who have dealt with Dave first hand
know he's a good guy and would simply ignore the post and not get involved.
It would rapidly fall to the bottom of the page and it would be forgotten rather quickly.
Leaving that one up, even though ridiculous wouldn't have been a big deal in my opinion.
On the other hand, the one about Rob Lifson and cockfighting should have been deleted
immediately as it was. Nothing constructive that has to do with baseball cards would
have come out of that post and it doesn't belong here.

Tony

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Posted By: leon

So you are saying since REA wholeheartedly supports that site, and the owner does cockfighting everyday, it's an absurd question? I don't think it's any more absurd than some of the sh** I have taken lately, quite honestly. Just trying to keep it open....IF the majority in this thread say to delete them then I will.....I will delete this one too if the majority wants me too...I am not sure what else I can do....What would you do with these 3 threads if you were me, Dan?

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Posted By: Shawn

Taking a wild guess on someones integrity without even knowing them and especially on a forum such as this is out of line. Its BASEBALL, Its NET54. Leon, hang on to what you feel is right. I am with you even if you say the sky is down!

Shawn

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Posted By: Marty Kohler

MY 2 CENTS....... by a newbe

I`ve watched your posts long enough to know you truly care about this forum. Take action and take control!!! Yes you are not going to make everyone happy so............do what you think is right and move on........ lets keep this thing fun!!!

(Nobody bats 1000)

GO YARD

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Posted By: leon

I will see the prevailing thoughts in about 15-20 minutes and do what the board wants with these three threads. I respect the wisdom of the board and want it to be run the way the members want it. I don't know what else I can do....I do want to talk about collecting and cards more though....I really do...

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Posted By: Al Simeone

WHAT NEAL SAID!!!
I enjoy going on to the site but over the last few days some of the threads that have been started are just plain STUPID. If Leon is making money on the site So What. Start your own site and you can do what ever you want! Does it really matter? Rob into chicken fighting WOW . Thats real news! Next I guess Bill Mastro might have a printing press set up and is now making his own T206s!!(Hello Bill) Lets just stick to the topics GREAT TALK ABOUT CARDS AND MAYBE A STRETCH ONCE IN AWHILE (LEONS PERMISSION) PINS BATS GLOVES. Leon you know I like pins!! And stop all the B.S. about all the things that are just plain meaningless!
This ones for you Leon as you know I like Jokes!
I just got back from the fridge over the last few days,
THOSE PRETZELS WERE MAKING ME THIRSTY!!

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

Leon, I'm sure you have heard the old saying - "when you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one". Trust your judgement, do what you think is right and don't look back. There will always be people who disagree with your decisions, and these people will be more vocal than the majority who agree with you.

Thank you for what you do. Keep up the good work. I spend a lot of time on this board and I enjoy it very much, but I wouldn't remotely consider moderating the board for $10-$15K.

Rick

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Posted By: leon

There is precedent for deleting a thread that the originator wants deleted. I did it on those 2. I am locking this one so we can get back to cards. I hope a few people will start some good threads soon about cards or the hobby and lets get back to it. I do know how to take control of the board ....

Edited to say I do appreciate the support of so many board members. I am sorry I doubt myself sometimes.....I hope everyone understands...