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Old 11-14-2018, 09:55 PM
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If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:55 AM
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Added another Dino Zoff to my keeper collection. A vital player in Italy's 1968 European Nations Championship.

Meanwhile, the NASL all-time goal scorer - Giorgio Chinaglia before joining the New York Cosmos (two versions, including the Valida)

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Old 11-27-2018, 04:55 PM
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:33 AM
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
Love this one Noel! Great Find.... I would probably ask Paul. Not sure on the dates, but I do believe that I have seen a different version.
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Thanks for the response Al and good call. I will update if/when i get a response from Paul.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:26 AM
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
OK, based on the back I'd say it's from around 1905 but BUT it could be a 1912 card. he was at Derby for two spells, before 1907 and after 1910. The North Parade address is the middle era address for Baines. It is not from the 1890s, that's clear, by the back, so I'd bet on 1905, or a couple of years earlier. So, it's not the rookie for Bloomer but it is probably one of the rarest cards of Bloomer, much rarer than his earlier cigarette cards.

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Thanks for the help and kind words--I did hear back from Paul and as expected I dont think there is anything new here. And thanks Samosa I think there is a way to ballpark these with the right research and agreed it is likely early 1900's (1902-1905).

"Unfortunately there is no real way to date Baines shields. No real records were kept and they were issued in such huge numbers (though very few survived). The only way to try and give them a date would be to try and find a similar card featuring different players and hope to pinpoint a date linked to the clubs they played for at that time."

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By the time I saw this it was already outside my budget. Nice pick up!!!
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If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.
I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.
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I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.
That is really cool. I absolutely love this set! The colors are amazing and the history of it being released in Germany just before WWII is fascinating.

I have been working for a few years on a complete run of all backs for the Nasazzi, Dixie Dean, and Zamora cards from this set. There were 5 known back variations when I started the project. In July, there was the latest update on back variations and now there are at least 15 different back variations, meaning that I am very, very far behind in my collecting journey on this project:
https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...-fussball.html

The day I read about all of the new-found back variations, I didn't know whether to shout with joy because it means I will have years of journey ahead of me or to cry because it means I have years of journey that will likely never be complete ahead of me


Anyway, cool set and great cards! And if anyone is selling/trading any Nasazzi, Dean, or Zamora cards from this set, let me know what backs they are and I might just be interested.
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Unfortunately, I do not believe this is a card of Poyetea in the 1938 Konig set.
It appears to be Carlos Pereira (FC Porto).

The search continues.... https://bibo-porto-carago.blogspot.c...ta-do.html?m=1
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Unfortunately, I do not believe this is a card of Poyetea in the 1938 Konig set.
It appears to be Carlos Pereira (FC Porto).

The search continues.... https://bibo-porto-carago.blogspot.c...ta-do.html?m=1
For what it's worth this is the back of the card, my broken German & google translate have the back as "In addition to Santos in Peirotea Portugal has a powerful and spirited centre forward. The scene from the 1:1 game on 24.4.38 shows a duel with Goldbrunner."

Looking at the picture you might be right, it might be an error and they have used a picture of Pereira (who according to the lineups also played). However it is a bit tricky as they both have the bushy eyebrows and in his younger pictures (he would have been 20 ish at the time) Peyrotea doesn't have his hair slicked back and looks very similar to Pereira eg some of the ones further down on this page and in the embedded videos https://www.forumscp.com/wiki/index....nando_Peyroteo
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:09 PM
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Both Santo and Perrier are midfielders (mittelstrumer). Poyetea was a stocky heavy set striker. It iss definitely not him on the card.

This is Pereria

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Mittelsturmer is the German term for centre-forward not midfielder. I've found some more pictures from the game in question here https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2...tugal-1-1-0-1/. I've attached a close up of the third picture which appears to show a young Peyrotea, remember he was only 20 at the time and hadn't bulked out yet. To me that looks like the same player on the card, more so than all the pictures of Peirera I can find. I am starting to lean back towards it actually being Peyrotea on the card front.

Talking of picture mix-ups I also happened to pick up a "Monelli" Baggio rookie. I know he appears on an earlier Vicenza squad sticker but I'm never too sure what to make of those. I think Bergkamp & Henry are the same but it feels a bit like cheating to claim them as rookies.
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I would like nothing more than this card to actually be the rookie card of this Portuguese player. (I own two of these cards)

And if the misspelled names of the Scottish players in the set are any indication, it can rightly be just that.

But I'd really rather be certain .... Let's keep looking.
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My whole family got up early Sunday morning to watch the World Cup final. I picked up this Rapinoe Panini sticker earlier last week:



I love it when an athlete emerges as the undisputed finest in the world; undisputed champion, etc. Rapinoe won the Golden Shoe and the Golden Ball, so she is indisputably the best woman 'footballer' in the world. Happy to add her to my modest collection.
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My whole family got up early Sunday morning to watch the World Cup final. I picked up this Rapinoe Panini sticker earlier last week:



I love it when an athlete emerges as the undisputed finest in the world; undisputed champion, etc. Rapinoe won the Golden Shoe and the Golden Ball, so she is indisputably the best woman 'footballer' in the world. Happy to add her to my modest collection.
The Ballon D’Or Winner (who protested the WC) might dispute that
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