The toughest modern cards you're still looking for...

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

For my 2012 Topps Heritage set I need the Francoeur color swap. I also need the Carlos Pena minor league stats variation; I've seen images of it, but never have I seen one for sale.

It's actually Major and Minor League Stats on the Carlos Pena card. While the card has been long been sold on COMC. someone sent in an incorrect Correction Request on this card yesterday so I looked at that card this AM. The ID person who put the card into the COMCdatabase was correct

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record

380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Just an FYI to help in your search

Rich

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record
380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Ah, I didn't realize it was just the stats box title that was different. Both have the same stats and the same variation number in small print so I thought one of the Sold Out cards was put in the wrong bucket by mistake.
FWIW, the Pena on COMC sold for like $95 while the Frenchy color swap sold for $65.

[Rich Klein]

John:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZu19zv7nM0

Well the 4:40 mark or so is what I thought of when I realized it was you (in this thread) who sent in that CR (Oh, was that you?)

Regards
Rich

[Statfreak101]

As an avid 1989 Fleer collector, it comes down to these two cards for me:

White scribble Ripken
Clear Marlboro Johnson

I know those both exist, and can buy at least the WS Ripken on eBay...but for me, it is the chase that matters and wanting to pull one of our a pack. Same with the Johnson.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

As an avid 1989 Fleer collector, it comes down to these two cards for me:

White scribble Ripken
Clear Marlboro Johnson

I know those both exist, and can buy at least the WS Ripken on eBay...but for me, it is the chase that matters and wanting to pull one of our a pack. Same with the Johnson.

I agree. Particularly with the Clearest version of 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Marlboro. With only two cards known to exist of this version this is the under the radar wild card of the 80s. I'm convinced the card value could someday be six figures plus if people start thinking about it in the context of today's cards and recognize it as an extremely rare parallel rookie card of one of the best pitchers of all time. Of course I'm biased. Still addicted to the card though and continue to search it out (along with the blue tint version).

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by steve5838

I agree. Particularly with the Clearest version of 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Marlboro. With only two cards known to exist of this version this is the under the radar wild card of the 80s. I'm convinced the card value could someday be six figures plus if people start thinking about it in the context of today's cards and recognize it as an extremely rare parallel rookie card of one of the best pitchers of all time. Of course I'm biased. Still addicted to the card though and continue to search it out (along with the blue tint version).

Sounds like you should start a Youtube channel, a cook group, and a 3,000 post thread on PSA's message board and in this alternate universe 2020, it should happen in a couple of months. Merry Christmas!

I don't know that I've seen one. But things you don't have going for you:
1) Most people don't realize the Johnson Marlboro "error" exists.
2) Cigarette smoking isn't as interesting as curse words.
3) If there are only 2 known, they can't really be shill bid up and traded heavily.
4) Doesn't have a long history of being looked for (like FF and NNOF Thomas).

[ALR-bishop]

There goes John being the optimist again

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Sounds like you should start a Youtube channel, a cook group, and a 3,000 post thread on PSA's message board and in this alternate universe 2020, it should happen in a couple of months. Merry Christmas!

I don't know that I've seen one. But things you don't have going for you:
1) Most people don't realize the Johnson Marlboro "error" exists.
2) Cigarette smoking isn't as interesting as curse words.
3) If there are only 2 known, they can't really be shill bid up and traded heavily.
4) Doesn't have a long history of being looked for (like FF and NNOF Thomas).

The key word was someday. That said, I'd pay up to 10k today if I could find another graded one for sale. Beyond that who knows where things will be in 20 years but that's my uneducated guess. If we can't have fun with this why bother. Completely get this one may not be your cup of tea.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ah, I didn't realize it was just the stats box title that was different. Both have the same stats and the same variation number in small print so I thought one of the Sold Out cards was put in the wrong bucket by mistake.
FWIW, the Pena on COMC sold for like $95 while the Frenchy color swap sold for $65.

How recently did both sell? I've depended either looking on eBay or by posting them as wants for my collection. I'd gladly pay those prices for either card to finish the set.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

It's actually Major and Minor League Stats on the Carlos Pena card. While the card has been long been sold on COMC. someone sent in an incorrect Correction Request on this card yesterday so I looked at that card this AM. The ID person who put the card into the COMCdatabase was correct

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record

380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Just an FYI to help in your search

Rich

Thank you for the clarification.

Phil