Koufax?

[TyrusRCobb]

Came across this on eBay. Currently at 157.50 with 16 bidders. The seller states that he has a JSA LOA as well as a "coa from another authenticator." There is a no return policy and something that struck me as odd, no ball holder. Is this good or did I just spot my first faux-Koufax?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandy-Koufax...ht_1262wt_1400

[jgmp123]

Ball looks fine to me.

[TyrusRCobb]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Ball looks fine to me.

Thanks. Any idea why a seller wouldn't offer a return? Also, why wouldn't there be a ball holder included with something like a Koufax ball? I'm not challenging your opinion, just trying to learn.

[HOFAUTOS]

Originally Posted by TyrusRCobb

Thanks. Any idea why a seller wouldn't offer a return? Also, why wouldn't there be a ball holder included with something like a Koufax ball? I'm not challenging your opinion, just trying to learn.

To get a better picture of the baseball. If it was inside a holder there would most likely be a glare.

As for the no return policy, you can return anything you purchase on ebay. Just file a Paypal claim as item not as described if you are not satisfied.

[TyrusRCobb]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

To get a better picture of the baseball. If it was inside a holder there would most likely be a glare.

As for the no return policy, you can return anything you purchase on ebay. Just file a Paypal claim as item not as described if you are not satisfied.

OK. I understand the no return policy bit but the seller says that the ball doesn't come with a ball holder or cube. Just struck me as odd.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by TyrusRCobb

OK. I understand the no return policy bit but the seller says that the ball doesn't come with a ball holder or cube. Just struck me as odd.

Would not getting a ball holder be a final determining factor for not purchasing that baseball?

[shelly]

I would ask to see the cert from JSA. I really believe that ball is not even close to being real.You only have to look at the S.
I do have a question for you. What are you collecting in autographs? You seem to be all over the place. I can not say that any one authenticator is better than someone else but just use your head. That is why Leon said this is not a free site. I don't want to sound mean but there come a time that you have to make your own decisions. Again make it clear what you are collecting so you that everyone on this site can help you in your search.
. The next question is where is the other cert from. I sure as hell would post both certs to make sure my buyers see what is fact or not. I would agree no returns means I don't buy. This is easy if you just take time to make sure what you are doing is right. There is no sure way to make sure what you are buying is real unless it was signed in front of you. Then you have nothing out there but trust.

[TyrusRCobb]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would ask to see the cert from JSA. I really believe that ball is not even close to being real.You only have to look at the S.
I do have a question for you. What are you collecting in autographs? You seem to be all over the place. I can not say that any one authenticator is better than someone else but just use your head. How many times do people have to say to you do your own research. That is why Leon said this is not a free site.
If you buy something because they said it is real makes them the bad guy because they gave you free advise.Pay for it that way you protect yourself. The next question is where is the other cert from. I sure as hell would post both certs to make sure my buyers where comfrotable.

Shelly, I just started collecting so that is why I'm "all over the place." I am doing my own research. I looked at this Koufax ball, did some comparing and didn't think it looked good. As such, I did what I've seen so many other people do, which is post it. Further more, I've been doing as much reading as I possibly can regarding the hobby. "If you buy something because they said it is real makes them the bad guy because they gave you free advise." Frankly Shelly, that isn't even a coherent sentence so I don't know what to do with that one. From day one I was prompted by other members to ask questions and seek advice. Am I using this service for free authentications? Of course not. I have a minuscule collection of 6 balls. I'd like to build on those six and I'd also like to become as knowledgeable as possible while doing so. Do this rub you the wrong way Shelly? If so, my apologies.

[shelly]

I want to thank you for being so kind. I had just posted a new version of what I wrote. You answered before I could post it. The ball is bad. I should have never said anything else.Have a nice evening.