Show...me...your print variations!

[savedfrommyspokes]

A long time collector (have not seen him post here though) recently pointed this print variation out to me. On the back of the 67 Topps #15 Battey card the bottom most line below the stats is either unbroken or has a small break on it. In quickly looking through DC and COMC at the backs it appears that about for every copy with the line unbroken, there are three copies with the small break.

[steve B]

That's a really cool line break. Not so much for the break, but for the unbroken line being a repair. You can see where the break was the line is a bit thick and uneven. That's probably from the press operator fixing it by scratching the missing section into the plate. There just might be normal ones with a nice even line if more than one plate was used.

Steve B

[savedfrommyspokes]

Steve, to me the unevenness of the repair is more obvious in hand than in the scan....out of the 20+ copies I viewed with the "repaired" line, they all appear quite similar, a bit thick and uneven. It would be nice to have a "more cleanly repaired line" variation to chase also.

[ALR-bishop]

I heard about this one some time back. I bought one from someone selling it as a variant on ebay

[savedfrommyspokes]

Not sure if I have seen this variation mentioned here before or not, but I came across two 66 522 Linz cards on ebay that have a white slash that runs from his upper back to the right edge of card. Appears to be a low pct of cards that have the white slash. Anyone else have one?

Update: as I typed this, a third copy with the white slash was just listed on ebay.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Found this 67 #195 card with a border break on the right edge....have not seen this print variation before.

[brightair]

saved,
I have one of those '67 Jacksons and the reverse is an upside down #178 Buzhardt, wonder if yours is likewise.
brightair

[brightair]

have been adding some 1967 common variations lately on my lists and will be adding several more next week.
brightair

https://sites.google.com/site/richar...ns-1960---1969

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by brightair

saved,
I have one of those '67 Jacksons and the reverse is an upside down #178 Buzhardt, wonder if yours is likewise.
brightair

Hi Richard, that incorrect, reversed back would be a nice additional twist to this print variation....unfortunately, my copy has the correct back. Also, thank you for maintaining your (ever growing) list....I look through it daily it seems.

[savedfrommyspokes]

I have not seen this HOF print variation mentioned before....72 Cepeda has a recurring break in the inner right border. There are at least 10 (of a 100 or so) copies on ebay with this border break.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Have not seen too many of these 60 Averill's with the yellow print fading out on the card's bottom, right side, but here are two. With these images from DC, it is not as obvious as when this card is in hand, but the yellow box (with name, pos etc) does not extend all of the way to the right border of the above image and with the streaks of missing yellow, the "green" grass in the picture blue streaks. Possible that the cards above or below on the sheet could be missing some of the yellow too.

[Exhibitman]

Guess what's different about this one:

[savedfrommyspokes]

Probably completely off on this, but something looks different about the buttons on Aaron's jersey....what ever the difference is, is it something only seen on this proof?

[Exhibitman]

It's not a proof, just a blank back error.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Nice....was it hand cut?

[curtis-cards]

While looking through eBay for the Yellow cornered Ramos, I found this version on 2 or 3 listings. I picked this one up.

It has a full yellow line across the top border.

[brightair]

Nice catch Curt.

[Cliff Bowman]

If someone else has one of these, please let me know. It's the only one I have ever seen. If a previous owner erased the "P" or used chemicals to remove it they did a very good job. I have held it up to a bright light and didn't see any evidence of that.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Found this 68 Blefary with a "swipe" of missing print on the back...out of 35 copies on DC and COMC there were 3 copies I saw like this.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

If someone else has one of these, please let me know. It's the only one I have ever seen. If a previous owner erased the "P" or used chemicals to remove it they did a very good job. I have held it up to a bright light and didn't see any evidence of that.

Cliff, from the scan is almost looks like the "ball" is brighter (less dull) white than the white border. Does it appear the same in hand?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Cliff, from the scan is almost looks like the "ball" is brighter (less dull) white than the white border. Does it appear the same in hand?

I will have to find the card and look at it. I don't know why someone would painstakingly go through the trouble of very professionally eliminating the "P" in the ball and then just sell it on eBay as a common. I spotted it a few years ago and bought it for a dollar or so. But, until I see another one I will be skeptical of it.

[David W]

Nice blank back Hank Aaron.

[savedfrommyspokes]

For all of us patriotic variation collectors out there, you can't beat this print variation....found several copies (COMC/DC/ebay) of this 69 109 card that have varying degrees of extra red on the flag stripes and jersey. The upper left card seems to be the most typical example of this card with little to no extra red in the stripes, as the stripes are fairly faint. The top right and bottom left card appear to have slightly more red on the flag's stripes and some small spots of excess red on the jersey(below the "E" and above the "D"). The bottom right card(same amount of red as my copy has), the red is heavier on this copy than it is on any of the other copies....the red stripes are heavier and the excess red on the jersey is much more pronounced. Does anyone else have a copy of this extra patriotic card?

[bnorth]

I good friend just picked up this beauty.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I good friend just picked up this beauty.

Damn, they got it for 99 cents on eBay. I used to look for that card religiously but eventually gave up because I figured it was a waste of time.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Damn, they got it for 99 cents on eBay. I used to look for that card religiously but eventually gave up because I figured it was a waste of time.

Yes Jerry is a lucky SOB. It is amazing how that print dot hit in just the perfect spot. I am sure all us weirdo print error collectors have spent a lot of time searching for that card.

EDIT: I just went and looked and the eBay listing even listed it as #293. I can't believe so many people missed it.

[Cliff Bowman]

I was looking at sold items on eBay for Topps errors and variations when I came across a 1976-80 Topps lot of 15 blank back cards that sold for $104.50 back in November 2014. I was bewildered why the lot went for so high so I looked it over until I figured it out. 14 of the 15 cards are run of the mill blank backs from 1976, 1978, and 1980, but it contains a 1979 card that is obviously an early stage unissued proof card. It has a photo of Phillie Tug McGraw but is listed as Jim Essian of the A's. The card is also lacking black ink, and appears to be crudely cut off of a sheet. Anyone else ever see a 1979 Topps error proof card like that one?

[bnorth]

I have not seen that variation in that year before. I have a few of the sheet cut 79 Fronts with the 78 backs. Know I have a 79 fronted Willie Randolph but can't remember who the 78 player is on the back.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Found this 68 #101 Beckert with a right border break due to a white print streak... saw about 5 out of 50+ copies with this.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have not seen that variation in that year before. I have a few of the sheet cut 79 Fronts with the 78 backs. Know I have a 79 fronted Willie Randolph but can't remember who the 78 player is on the back.

Here is a front back picture of the 1979 Topps Willie Randolph front with the 1978 wrongback of Rick Burleson with just a sliver of the #200 Reggie Jackson card.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Here is a front back picture of the 1979 Topps Willie Randolph front with the 1978 wrongback of Rick Burleson with just a sliver of the #200 Reggie Jackson card.

There are always some of those on eBay, the 1979 cards with the badly off center 1978 backs. I read before that leftover 1978 printed backs were used as a practice run for the new 1979 fronts, and some of them escaped the dumpster and made their way into the hands of collectors. It's possible that Keith Olbermann talked about some of the 1979 Topps proof error cards in his three part series, but I was never able to find the third part where he talks about 1977 and up. Correction, it was a four part series and Olbermann only talks about 1977 in the last part.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

There are always some of those on eBay, the 1979 cards with the badly off center 1978 backs. I read before that leftover 1978 printed backs were used as a practice run for the new 1979 fronts, and some of them escaped the dumpster and made their way into the hands of collectors. It's possible that Keith Olbermann talked about some of the 1979 Topps proof error cards in his three part series, but I was never able to find the third part where he talks about 1977 and up. Correction, it was a four part series and Olbermann only talks about 1977 in the last part.

Yes eBay is where I got mine several years ago. Also got some 79 Topps blank fronts that are sheet(hand) cut at the same time.

I will have to look and see if I can find Olbermans 4 part series.

[steve B]

Yes, the 79 fronts with 78 backs were rescued by someone, I forget the dealer who ended up with them. I bought a strip of them at the time, arrived poorly packed and a bit creased since the box got a bit crushed in the mail. I still have it somewhere.

That was my second experience with mail order for collectibles, neither went all that well. They've been ok over time of course, but at the time it put me off mail order for a long time.

The 78 backs were also used for Bazooka boxes. They also used cardboard from Black Hole cards for bazooka boxes.

Steve B

[SMPEP]

Dumb question - you frequently see the 1978 Topps baseball cards with Mork & minday stickers on the back - my question for any in the know, did someone just peel the sticker off the original Mork & Mindy card and then stick it on a 1978 Topps card?

I'm not even sure how these could have been created at the factory ... because you use different paper for the baseball cards than was used for teh peel off stickers.

Always seemed like a scam (that many people bought) to me.

[steve B]

Nope, just more use of scrap by Topps. I have one, and it's the sticker front printed onto the baseball card stock. Probably from using the leftover baseball stuff to adjust the presses.

Steve B

[SMPEP]

So, the "sticker" isn't a sticket in this case (i.e. you can't peel it off). It's just a printed version of teh sticker on baseball card stock. Right?

[batsballsbases]

Had these 1967s for a very long time. Came out of a vending box. Fronts are not badly centered but the backs were all off. You can see where some of them go together. Funny I have 2 Jim Hicks cards and both are off one a little more than the other. The cards are like NRMT! You can see the start of the Dodgers team card next to Alou..

[batsballsbases]

Some green and blue beards and some blurr boys!

[LuckyLarry]

The front of the single card is a perfectly centered '64 Topps #214 Ken McMullen. But the back includes parts of four cards none of which is McMullen.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Here is a HOF print variation...72 #300 Aaron, found only a few copies with the print line across his legs. This line is much more obvious in hand versus the images from DC. This line would be similar to red line that appears on some copies of the 306 Boswell card.

[shempdevil]

I haven't seen many of these, but does anyone know just how rare this variation is?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Topps-R...item1e9a2d6a6e

[JollyElm]

For 1962 Checklist #367, the variation has always seemingly been defined as 'light wood' versus 'dark wood.' Well, in looking at all of the checklists as part of my green tints research, I stumbled upon something. Namely, a much simpler way to differentiate the two variations…

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a. The card on the left is the 'dark wood' variation. If you look in its upper left corner, you'll see that part of the white is completely missing. You can see it right away.

b. The card on the right is the 'light wood' variation. If you look at its bottom right corner, you'll see that a notch of the white is missing. This, too, is clearly visible.

So there you have it. A much easier way to spot the two different versions of this checklist.

[4reals]

Very keen observation on the 62 checklist Darren, great find!

[K-Nole]

Are these rare or pretty Common on the backs of 67 topps?

[obctom]

I have two of the "green splotch on chin" print variations. I don't see them very often. In fact I didn't realize there was a non-splotch version until a few years ago; green-chin Carlos was in my binder with the '71 set until I re-discovered it & started looking for more. I always imagined the Sox made him paint the clubhouse before posing for his card.

Tom

[Cliff Bowman]

Stray yellow dots under the team name.

[Cliff Bowman]

Light green square on his glove.

[Cliff Bowman]

Large area of the right border is blue rather than green.

[Cliff Bowman]

1956 Topps Eddie Robinson missing the 2b and 3b stats and 1956 Topps Jim Konstanty with an incomplete green stat box line around his E.R.A.

[4reals]

Sweet finds, Cliff! You're on a roll!

Here's a couple I've found as of late...

72 Topps Santo IA with a "rainbow swirl"
This card can also be found with border breaks around in action without the swirl


76 Topps Traded Jack Brohamer with "peeling" black background