Congrats eagles and heir fans!

[packs]

I'm not defending the Eagles defensive performance as a whole. I'm trying to get you to understand that in a high pressure situation, the only thing that matters is that you performed in that moment. Finishing is what's important and the Eagles D showed up in that moment, which won them the game. You keep talking about everything else that happened up to the moment the game was won as though it mattered more.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm not defending the Eagles defensive performance as a whole. I'm trying to get you to understand that in a high pressure situation, the only thing that matters is that you performed in that moment. Finishing is what's important and the Eagles D showed up in that moment, which won them the game. You keep talking about everything else that happened up to the moment the game was won as though it mattered more.

They created the high pressure moment by giving up the lead late in the game

If a closer comes in the 9th inning up 8 runs and gives up 7 earned runs, but with the bases loaded with 1 out he gets a double play, sure thats a high pressure out but he created the situation. His team gave him the 8 run lead, thats what is important..not getting the double play. Eventually somebody will hit the ball to a defender. That closer would not be considered someone that 'won' the game.

Any defense would have a high probability to be on the winning side if their offense scores 33 points and the defense doesnt even have to force any punts to win the game and only needs 1 turnover in a situation where they are at a tremendous advantage due to limited clock and only a td beats them

You keep focusing on the end, but how they got there counts. By your logic Brady should be blamed for the loss, not his defense since the patriot defense was not there in the end. If you cant blame Brady, then you cant credit the Eagles defense. Plus the Patriot defense has no blame for the game because they were not on the field in the end. Why retool the Patriot defense when it was Brady's fault.

Patriot defense did force a fg and prevent time running out and get the ball back to to Brady down by 8.

Lets face it both defenses were terrible. We can argue who was better but its arguable and within the terrible category. If the eagles dont get the sack fumble and the patriots score, we are talking 600 plus passing yard allowed and huge last minute choke job (no superbowl team ever gave up td to lose game when drive started under 2 mins). Avoiding giving up 600 yards passing and not choking with less than 2 mins left doesnt give them praise.


Correct me im wrong but no team in a superbowl won the super bowl with a TD when getting the ball with under 2 minutes left. I know there were other strip sacks like with Kurt Warner on the Cardinals.

[packs]

I guess you missed both of the Giants' wins. Too bad, they were good games.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

I guess you missed both of the Giants' wins. Too bad, they were good games.

apparently you missed them too... unless you are saying the giants started a drive with under 2 minutes left that resulted in a touchdown to win the game. So you are saying that happened in both or either of them?

(which is what the patriots would of had to do and what i said hasnt happened in any super bowls, correct me if im wrong)

If the eagles defense was a closer, they would of given up 8 runs in the bottom of the 9th with a 9 run lead)

[packs]

Haha alright man it's not worth it but just for your peace of mind, in Super Bowl XLII the Giants started their drive with 2:39 to go. They scored a touchdown with 35 seconds left to win the game. In Super Bowl XLVI the Giants started their drive with 3:46 left in the game. They scored a touchdown with 57 seconds left to win the game.

The Patriots started their drive with 2:21 left in the game. Except they lost because the Eagles defense forced a fumble that put the game out of reach.

[steve B]

How does a bit of sportsmanship devolve into personal attacks and a debate about whose defense sucked less and when ..... Of right, almost forgot where I was.


Eff yez all, the pats got jobbed by the refs who were obviously paid off by Goodell. Go punch a horse.

[clydepepper]

What a HUGE Crowd for their parade!!

Golic said there were 850 porta-potties to serve over 3 million - do the math...that's not a good line to be in.

Just hope there will be a minimum of vandalism.

Congrats again to Eagles' fans!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by steve B

How does a bit of sportsmanship devolve into personal attacks and a debate about whose defense sucked less and when ..... Of right, almost forgot where I was.


Eff yez all, the pats got jobbed by the refs who were obviously paid off by Goodell. Go punch a horse.

lol

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by steve B

How does a bit of sportsmanship devolve into personal attacks and a debate about whose defense sucked less and when ..... Of right, almost forgot where I was.


Eff yez all, the pats got jobbed by the refs who were obviously paid off by Goodell. Go punch a horse.

Okay..."Mongo only pawn in game of life."

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[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Haha alright man it's not worth it but just for your peace of mind, in Super Bowl XLII the Giants started their drive with 2:39 to go. They scored a touchdown with 35 seconds left to win the game. In Super Bowl XLVI the Giants started their drive with 3:46 left in the game. They scored a touchdown with 57 seconds left to win the game.

The Patriots started their drive with 2:21 left in the game. Except they lost because the Eagles defense forced a fumble that put the game out of reach.

yeah 2:21 still a big difference with 3:36...plus giants had 3 timeouts..., i beleive the patriots in this years SB only had 1...so thats a HUGE difference..

also the patriot defense in that giant SB game you are referencing didnt give up 500 yard and 33 points to put them in the 'pressure' situations..,

you dont get credit for getting a 'stop' when you are the one that put yourself in that situation plus 1 timeout 2:21 left in the game full length of the field gives the Defense an advantage..... 3:36 left and 3 timeouts for the offense doesnt give any advantage to the defense.