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Old 02-03-2016, 07:22 PM
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Billy Herman has a card in the '52 topps set. So does Dick Williams, who though he appears as a player in the '52 set he was inducted as a manager.

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Man, I'm pretty sure both of those photos are actually Dick Williams. Has anyone noticed that before? That picture looks nothing like Billy Herman.

(The pictures didn't come over when I hit quote for some reason.)
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Here's a few of HOF players who later served as coaches or managers...

1954 Topps Earle Combs (Yankees coach)
1951, 1953, 1955 Bowman Lou Boudreau (Red Sox, Athletics manager)
1955 Rodeo Meats Lou Boudreau (Athletics manager)
1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1969 Topps Al Lopez (White Sox manager)
1985 Topps Yogi Berra (Yankees manager)
1987 Topps Yogi Berra (Astros coach)
1969 Topps Joe Gordon (Royals manager)
2002 Topps Tony Perez (Marlins manager)
1965, 1966 Topps Billy Herman (Red Sox manager)
1983, 1984, 1989, 1990, 1991, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 Topps Frank Robinson (Giants, Orioles, Expos, Nationals manager)
1971, 1972, 1978 Topps Bob Lemon (Royals, White Sox manager)
1961 Fleer Ted Williams (he did coach the Red Sox in spring training that year)

In fact, the 1960 and 1961 Fleer sets are loaded with cards of HOF players in later years as coaches and managers
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Old 02-05-2016, 07:53 AM
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Man, I'm pretty sure both of those photos are actually Dick Williams. Has anyone noticed that before? That picture looks nothing like Billy Herman.

(The pictures didn't come over when I hit quote for some reason.)
You have a good question and I can also see some resemblance, but going by some of these pics, I think it is actually him in the card.

I have never heard anything of what you say before, so that also leads me to believe it is actually him.

http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/pla...seball-photos/
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I gotta be honest, I don't see anything even remotely similar to Billy Herman's face…
billyherman1.jpg

But, man, does it look exactly like Dick Williams…
billyherman2.jpg
Same ears, same smile, same head shape, same chin, same nasolabial lines (Yes, I had to look up that term. The lines going down from the edges of the nose to the outer edges of the mouth.), etc.

Add to it the fact that they were teammates and it's easy to imagine the original photograph used to create the card was labeled wrong by someone in Brooklyn.
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It almost certainly isn't Herman, but I'm not seeing Williams there either.
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