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Old 06-08-2019, 07:23 PM
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Default Bad ump

Not that I mind he's messing up on the Yankees, but this guy must be about the worst ump around.

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Old 06-08-2019, 08:00 PM
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The man is an atrocity (as an umpire, that is) and that he continues to work in Major League Baseball stupifies me.
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:15 AM
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You`re right Steve, Hernandez has always been " questionable" at best especially behind the plate. Did you happen to see the guy doing the plate during the Sox/Rays game Sat. nite, bad but it was both ways.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:08 AM
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I don't know if baseball can fire an ump for incompetence or not but they need to put it in their next contract, theres no way a guy with Angel's total incompetence should be allowed to keep his job. Its funny that he actually sued MLB because they would not allow him to umpire postseason games.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:19 PM
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All this is a downside of unionization. I'm not saying I'm against unions, only that this is something that commonly comes with it.




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The real problem is a lack of umpires coming through the pipeline. I live in WA state. Rural areas don't have enough umpires, and even metro areas sometimes fall short. The more advanced leagues get the most experienced umps, with or without merit. This leaves lower leagues with no umpires, or umpires running a game by themselves.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:40 AM
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The real problem is a lack of umpires coming through the pipeline. I live in WA state. Rural areas don't have enough umpires, and even metro areas sometimes fall short. The more advanced leagues get the most experienced umps, with or without merit. This leaves lower leagues with no umpires, or umpires running a game by themselves.

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Old 06-10-2019, 10:57 AM
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And some coaches.

One of the kids that worked at the bike shop was umpiring at 13-14. But he was very tough. He also refereed hockey a year after he played.

One day early in the baseball season he came in and said "well, my streak ended. " What streak. "My three games in a row of not ejecting anyone. The umpire chief was working with me an being less strict, but last night I tossed 6 people"

Later on, one of the baseball coaches on a very good team had a reputation for being terrible to the kids who umpired, and not much better to the older kids and adults.
This kid was called and told to switch games as the previous kid who had umped one of their games had left the field crying - in mid game. He was told not to go easy on them. Told the coach that unless it was a horrible call, or a legit question he didn't want to hear about it. If he did he'd toss out the coach assistant and best player.
Inning one - Close play at second, guy comes out complaining, kid says "it was close, but it's been called and I've heard you go sit down."
Later inning -another close play, guy comes out all fired up. Gets personal and almost threatening. Gets it right back. "You were warned, take a seat and shut up" Goes back to the bench, and complains from there. Couple batters later the batter gives him some **** as he comes to the plate and is tossed. Coach comes out fuming about you can't do this etc and makes a threat.
Kid tosses him and as the guy follows him towards the bench it's "You're gone, and he's gone and he's gone. Just like I told you " (a coach ejection is also a 2 game suspension, and this was the last regular season game, meaning the team had no coach for the start of the playoffs. )
Escalates to "we're not leaving, you're just a kid, what are you going to do"
"This" summons police officer from behind the backstop.
Coach " I'll sit in the stands... "
Cop "no, you can watch from the sidewalk but you cant be near the field."
Coach "I'm not doing that"
Cop " You can walk to the sidewalk on your own or I can cuff you and remove you"
Coach leaves.

They also had the kid umpire all that teams playoff games....

I hear he's a doctor now worked his way through school as an EMT.

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Old 06-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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Being an Umpire has become a very dangerous job...
especially at the amateur level.

Small wonder there's a shortage.

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Hernandez is a bad umpire, but Sanchez was not helping out Tanaka either. Gary's having a great year at the plate and has gotten better at blocking pitches, but his pitch framing has gotten worse. Setting up outside the box is not helping him get calls.
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Hernandez is a bad umpire, but Sanchez was not helping out Tanaka either. Gary's having a great year at the plate and has gotten better at blocking pitches, but his pitch framing has gotten worse. Setting up outside the box is not helping him get calls.
Agreed. Although I don't follow all teams, I cannot think of a starting catcher in MLB who is worse at framing pitches than Sanchez. Anyone watching a Yankees game and focusing on this aspect of defense would notice almost immediately and quite noticeably how poorly Sanchez frames pitches. It almost looks likes he's fighting the ball much of the time rather than receiving it.
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