1920 Yankees Pennant ; what is it worth??

[rkoolstuff7]

See attached picture, all black yellow letters, with a rainbow shape with 1920 in black on gold.

[jt39]

I know nothing about pennants, but that's the NY Giants, not the Yankees ... and it looks fantastic! Good luck.

[RichardSimon]

+1
That is definitely a NY Giants pennant, the team colors were black and gold.
Nice piece.

[jerseygary]

I don't think it is the Giants, they didn't use the Orange and black scheme until the early 1930's. In 1920 they used red and blue I believe (all my books are packed up awaiting the movers). But of course you can't always go by colors when it comes to judging pennents, I had a 1940's Jersey City Giants pennant that is yellow and black, as far from their real red, white and blue colors as you can get.

The "NY" is similarly ornate like the Giants but markedly different, this one is overall square while the Giants "Y" on the their "NY" extended below the "N" like the current Mets logo.

My gut tells me it is a generic souvenir pennant commemorating the city or state. Very classy looking pennant.

[prewarsports]

I agree with Gary.

The tassles and the design indicate that it was a New York City Pennant to commemorate that you had been to the City itself and not for a Baseball team.

Rhys Yeakley

[murphusa]

Each of the 5 boroughs had their own colors?

[packs]

I wouldn't think so. Probably just one generic NYC pennant. The other boroughs weren't very developed in 1920. Robert Moses hadn't built the subway system yet.

[Leon]

So what do you guys think on value. Only knowing the hobby and peripheral things, what do ya'll think....$200-$500?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Leon

So what do you guys think on value. Only knowing the hobby and peripheral things, what do ya'll think....$200-$500?

It's not baseball related so the value is pretty minimal IMO..$50 or less.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

It's not baseball related so the value is pretty minimal IMO..$50 or less.

Woops. I missed the part about it probably not being baseball related. Your guess would then sound about right, Dan.

[prewarsports]

Assuming it is a generic pennant for the City of New York and not affiliated with Baseball in any way, $50-$100.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by packs

I wouldn't think so. Probably just one generic NYC pennant. The other boroughs weren't very developed in 1920. Robert Moses hadn't built the subway system yet.

The IRT subway opened in 1904.
Robert Moses had nothing to do with the subway.
(And if I were you, I wouldn't be tellin' Brooklynites that their borough (formally an independent city) wasn't "very developed" in 1920.)

[oriolesbb6]

Nice decorative NY City souvenir pennant 40-60 range.

[packs]

My apologies. Robert Moses didn't build the subways but he made it possible for people to travel in and around NYC like never before.

My comment wasn't directed at Brooklyn but you are free to take offense to whatever you would like to.

[David Atkatz]

I'm from the Bronx. I couldn't care less about Brooklyn. But it's one of the "other boroughs."
Robert Moses made it possible for people with cars--and only people with cars--to travel around New York. That's why he built Parkways--no trucks or buses allowed. And he made sure that no NYC scum would be able to take buses out to the LI beaches by making the Parkway overpasses too low for a bus to get under. Robert's motto? "If you don't own a car, well then, screw you."

[packs]

I'm not saying Moses was an angel but he was a forward thinking man. During the WPA projects he was one of a few city planners to fit African Americans into his plans.

[mr2686]

Yep, that forward thinking helped us get the Dodgers out here in California.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Yep, that forward thinking helped us get the Dodgers out here in California.

LOL

[murphusa]

Listed with a BIN of $999.00


do you feel used

[thecatspajamas]

Looks more like a complete disregard for everything he was told to me. I don't see that he "used" any information he was given

[Leon]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage1920-...-/260842211891


That is really sad. You would hope folks would do the right thing but I guess some people just can't help themselves. Very, very sad. How do people like this sleep at night? I just don't get it. I wonder if they have ever heard the word "karma"?

[slidekellyslide]

"I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON VINTAGE TOYS or ANYTHING ELSE SO, PLEASE IF THERE IS SOMETHING I'VE MISSED, FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME W/ ANY QUESTIONS."

Heh.

[barrysloate]

Among his three choices this could be a 1920 Mets pennant.

And you guys are disparaging Brooklyn, the greatest borough of them all?

[jerseygary]

What a bum, and brace yourself - he doesn't take returns either. At least someone who would shell out that much money for a pennant probably has the smarts to know that this is just a generic souvenir pennant.

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

"I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON VINTAGE TOYS or ANYTHING ELSE SO, PLEASE IF THERE IS SOMETHING I'VE MISSED, FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME W/ ANY QUESTIONS."

Heh.

Dan

I base all my buying decisions on the use or abuse of the Caps Lock key.

[Lordstan]

Leon,

Is this type of activity grouds for banning?
I mean he was educated very quickly by knowledgeable board members. He then chose to write an ad which is cleary and intentionally misleading.
I don't think it's unreasonable in this type of situation.

Mark

[Rickyy]

Not only that...never even bothered to acknowledge the time people took to reply with even a thanks...

Ricky Y

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

Leon,

Is this type of activity grouds for banning?
I mean he was educated very quickly by knowledgeable board members. He then chose to write an ad which is cleary and intentionally misleading.
I don't think it's unreasonable in this type of situation.

Mark

Yeah, I guess it's grounds. Scammers and people playing ignorant just suck, in general. But, I didn't ban Frank yesterday when I got the Cease and Desist. Also, if this guy wanted to come back and try to defend himself he couldn't. I prefer not to ban folks, in general. Maybe a poll is in order?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Among his three choices this could be a 1920 Mets pennant.

+1
I mean we don't expect everyone on ebay to be a SABR baseball scholar,, but 1920 NY Mets??? MORON.
Leon - anyone who can put that in an ebay ad deserves to be banned.

[Moesalty]

+1..... I'm new here, but for what it's worth, the guy is a double douche! He is exactly what our hobby does not need because one of the good guys is gonna get f@cked on this. One thing is ignorance, but this is clearly deliberate. Guillotine baby!!!