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Old 01-08-2013, 08:41 AM
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Default Honus Wagner T206 Piedmont Back

Looks like technology has finally settled the debate over the (John Cobb / Ray Edwards) Honus Wagner T206 Piedmont back card once and for all...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100359505

A CT scanner is a must have for every serious collector of vintage cards.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:49 AM
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F-F-F-Finally...these bozos will go away!!!!!!!!!! I hope!!!!
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:52 AM
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Edwards said it would really hurt if he discovered the card was a fake....was he hurt when dozens of card experts on this board told him it was no good?
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:54 AM
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apparently not Barry...it took a ridiculously expensive x-ray used to diagnose pathology on humans to convince him!

Makes for quality television though!
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:24 AM
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Wait so the card they own isn't real?

Love how he brought the big dollar card into the building in a brown paper bag. I guess a briefcase with a lock would be too much to ask for….then again the briefcase is worth more.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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Wait so the card they own isn't real?

Love how he brought the big dollar card into the building in a brown paper bag. I guess a briefcase with a lock would be too much to ask for….then again the briefcase is worth more.
The brown paper bag was worth more.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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It was kind of funny seeing how amazed the guy was when he heard about the thickness of the card.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:30 AM
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Love how he brought the big dollar card into the building in a brown paper bag. I guess a briefcase with a lock would be too much to ask for….then again the briefcase is worth more.
John, I also loved the paper bag. I think the question now is how much do you think he got paid to be on the show?

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Old 01-08-2013, 10:33 AM
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apparently not Barry...it took a ridiculously expensive x-ray used to diagnose pathology on humans to convince him!

Makes for quality television though!
In the CT scan’s defense these guys are sort of a tumor on the hobby….so in a way good job GE imaging.

Sadly that is most likely true he got paid some cash...these bozos will ride this train as long as they can...
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:38 AM
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That was interesting, thanks for posting it.
I suppose the card now has value since its been on a tv show and is famous in its own right.
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Sadly, I doubt it'll end with this show. They'll somehow come up with claims that the show was rigged, the scan wasn't accurate, the CT scanner wasn't properly configured to scan a flat object, other cards are thinner in the middle, and God only knows.

I bet they'll sue the grading company and/or the scanning center and/or the TV show for damages.

Interesting that it appeared only one of the owners were present for the scan. Perhaps the other one didn't want to face reality or be caught on camera having to admit he's been wrong.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:44 AM
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The 'Treasure Detectives' are racist! The card is real.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:47 AM
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I suppose the card now has value since its been on a tv show and is famous in its own right.
I'm scanning eBay now for "Once in a lifetime chance to own the famed T206 Wagner featured on hit show Treasure Detectives" with a BIN of $100,000.
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Had to be skeptical when a green Cobb port begins the video.
And what's wrong with a brown paper bag? Peter Chao used to carry his stuff in his pocket.
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i wonder - where he got it from - who graded it - and what he payed for it
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i wonder - where he got it from - who graded it - and what he payed for it
Last year in March, i spoke with the guy who authentified this card.
I meet this guy at the Montreal Card show.
I asked a couple question about his authentification.

He said that the card is period correct(1910) with all the test made by these two guy and all her expert...
he dont said the card is a real ' Regular ' Wagner... perhaps a pre-print ..... a test card etc etc etc. So it was a funny conversation with this guy

The more funny thing is :
2 week before the Montreal show i write an E-mail to a guy i know for long time who work now for ACA grading, and i sent to this guy a pic of that Wagner ( ungraded ) and i ask to him for his opinion.
his answer is immediatly : This card is a Fake.
Immediatly after that i send to this same guy the picture of the Wagner graded by the company where this guy work....

His answer was : OK you will speak with the owner of ACA at next MTL show to ask your question.....
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The brown paper bag was to put over his head and to breath into after he received the good news.
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"Now we can't take it out of the case......." No, wouldn't want to do that after all of the trouble it took to find someone to put it in a case

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Well, these guys figured out a way to make some money off this thing. Good for them. They may finally admit to what they've been told all along, but they've probably made at least what a "real" low-grade copy of the card could've sold for off of it..

Personally, I think it would be kinda cool to have THAT card. Just for the story behind it. Although, I wouldn't be willing to pay much for it.. THIS card may be one of the most famous individual cards in the hobby(albeit for legitimately negative reasons)..
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Has anyone authenticated the bag?
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Has anyone authenticated the bag?
The inside was good....the outside- no good.
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Well, these guys figured out a way to make some money off this thing. Good for them. They may finally admit to what they've been told all along, but they've probably made at least what a "real" low-grade copy of the card could've sold for off of it..

Personally, I think it would be kinda cool to have THAT card. Just for the story behind it. Although, I wouldn't be willing to pay much for it.. THIS card may be one of the most famous individual cards in the hobby(albeit for legitimately negative reasons)..
I doubt they were paid very much money... at least not anywhere near 300k
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Don't be too quick to judge, the bag is legit.



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Chris that is great! I laughed so hard my wife gave me a funny look.
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I dont know Chris, have Corey and Jay checked with Messier yet on the fibers of that bag?

BTW how big is that holder??

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I dont know Chris, have Corey and Jay checked with Messier yet on the fibers of that bag?

BTW how big is that holder??
The holder is huge......I will add comments elsewhere concerning re-slabbing cards. They should always go back to the TPG to be done.
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I dont know Chris, have Corey and Jay checked with Messier yet on the fibers of that bag?

BTW how big is that holder??
Messier is not talking to anyone these days. Their custom slabs are getting a bit ridiculous really.
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So the card is a fake? No $***, Sherlock...

Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen the last of these idiots.
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[QUOTE=atx840;1071814]Don't be too quick to judge, the bag is legit.

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