Similar to the 57 "Bakep", these Buhl cards have some of the same characteristics as the Bakep card....some bleeding of the red into the ball and a letter in the name partially obscured(Bob's middle initial "R"). As with the Bakep, there appears to be varying degrees of red in the ball and the amount of the "R." that is obscured.

1964 #45 Pappas
 

Here is a new twist on this card. Notice that there is a white shadow around his ear on one version. There are a few of these on eBay and COMC and I just bought three to prove the variation. It should be easy to find.

1961 tOPPS 121 ELI GRBA
 

I noticed this 61 Grba card with varying degrees of missing border along the right edge. My first thought was what does the card to the right look like, no luck though, the Grba card is on the sheet's right edge.

1961 Topps
 

How about these?

They look like they're missing a black color pass.

Very nice Tom...blackless and nearly blackless.

1956 Topps
 

How about these overprints?

'56 Topps
 

Second attempt

There is a pretty cool 1959 Topps Venezuelan currently on eBay, it's a Gene Green missing all of the green ink on the back of the card.

1957 #394 Arroyo
 

I have the one in the scan with the normal one and found this one on COMC, proving it is not a one off.

1958 Free Felt Initial Card
 

On this card, you will notice at the left of the off-focus version that most of the phrase "GET YOUR INITIAL FREE!" is present. On the back of the cards (both are ON focus) that phrase exists at the top. I did not scan the back but can, if needed. I am curious about this card. Was the card double-printed with one version turned over so the phrase is next to the obverse of the other? Has anyone obtained an uncut sheet of 1958 Topps Football cards?

Here's an odd pair of variations. 1970 card #401, Giants Rookies, comes in the 'regular' version (not shown), plus (top) with a black 'pinhole' beside the 'G' in 'Giants' and (bottom) a UFO buzzing above the baseball in Harrell's hand…

Attachment 261958

Here's one of my favorites! Griffith missing the ti. I think I've seen only 4-5 of these.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1705/2...5e2738ce_z.jpgGriffith Missing "ti" version by Paul Herbener, on Flickr

1963 #133 Freese
 

Notice in the left version that the bat has gray in it. This is recurring and some are on COMC and eBay currently.

'63 Topps error
 

Can anyone explain this one?

That is an awesome print offset. They are from when the press is getting set up and not properly adjusted yet. Most left out the back door and very few with a print offset that big left the factory in a pack.

Those are among my favorite cards to collect.:)

I would love to see other examples like this.

Here are a few of mine with different amounts of print offset.

Here is a missing print (on back) on a known variation...2 for the price of 1:

Yellowless??
 

Came across this card, it appears to be "yellow-less"....my expectation/experience would be for the red to fade before the yellow and since I am not seeing any fading on the red, I feel this "yellow-less" state of this card is due to factory print issues versus post factory fading.

The copy on the right's red is fairly close to the red on the left's copy, so if there was fading involved, the red on the left copy should appear much more faded than the right copy.

Anyone else seen another "yellow-less" 58 Topps card?

Neat card. Here in Cairns no one has seen anything like it. They want to know if Bobby plays cricket

58 Topps cards are by far the easiest card to fade. Go up 2 posts and look at that Spahn.

That card looks faded from the picture. If you want to know for sure send it to me with return postage and I will tell you for sure.

IMO, the red should have faded before the yellow, but for whatever reason with the Richardson card this does not appear to be the case.

I will put this 58 card with the same color scheme in a (south facing) window tomorrow and see what happens with it.....here is the before pic. I am curious to see if the yellow and/or red fades first . Any ideas on how long it might take to show signs of fading?

It really depends on the brand and year of card on what fades first. On 58's the yellow is by far the easiest color to remove of any brand/year I have ever experimented with.

PM or email me and I can give you all the info you want.:)

EDIT: If you find the blue front 1958 Aaron threads there is one that I show pictures of the background turning from green to blue. I added them to this post.

Here is one I have not noticed before....the bottom border on this 71 Bench card has a recurring but limited print defect....always tougher to spot on HOFer's cards.

Have been on a fairly long cruise...128 days...since 1-5. Most passengers are retired like we are and even older age wise ( one guy is 102). On several occasions at dinner people will ask if I play golf or have a hobby. When I say I colllect baseball cards they say "oh"....and that the end of that conversation. ( although one guy did say he used to have a Mantle card but did not remember which one)

1960 Banks
 

Not sure if th this one applies to this section or not but an interesting card non the less . At bottom of card it says Section I . Sorry the picture is not that great ,
Brett

Enjoy your cruise, let these other passengers know how much fun they are missing.

Sounds like one heck of a cruise, Al.

Enjoy!

1962 #1 Unitas
 

Notice on this pair of cards that, more than a different color uniform jersey, the "9" in "19" is farther into the margin on the right most version. Also, the person at the bottom is more to the right in this version and the vegetation is different above him.

Also, the closeup of his hands on the ball image clearly shows his knuckles closer to the side margin in the lower one.

I thought you said they were older.

Bob must be lost or bored if he ended up in a variations thread

Liking the 63 offset error that was posted above.

As likely Ben's competition for offset errors (lol) I have several hundred and the extreme ones are always my favorites.

Here is a neat one I just picked up last week that is a double exposed George Burke Stamp. The first I have run across of these...

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1968...&size=original
1968 Topps - [Base] #179 - Bill Stoneman
Courtesy of COMC.com

Red burlap at the bottom of this Stoneman; multiple copies on COMC this way, so pretty common.

1960 De Lock
 

It looks like PacMan ate part of the ball. I wonder how this happened.

I got one of the buybacks in this year's Heritage of this set and it has the red line on it also.

Wtf?
 

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/3...41255383_b.jpg

Anyone here know what the hell this is?

Bump
 

Bump, found picture

Looks like the sheet got snagged and ripped in the middle of the printing process.

Except black is last, and the inside of the cardboard is usually dark like the back. A peel of the surface is possible, but would be pretty crazy. Usually the entire surfaced side pulls away. I'm thinking a solvent spill that eventually dried. That would keep the colors from printing, and mostly dried would give the fuzzy look to the black layer at that corner.

Pretty cool card no matter how it happened.

Steve B

That was my first thought, like the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF, but that affected like 12 cards. If this was a regular thing, many more cards would have been affected in this set. I was thinking the fuzzy black line was due to a thinner paper depth from the top layer being torn off.

If the card was actually printed that way from the factory and made it out in distribution to the public, then the other affected cards to look for would be Matt Alexander, Dickie Noles, and Glenn Abbott. They were the three cards that bordered Comer in the upper right corner. Comer is on the left side, third card from the bottom.

Here are some football cards.........
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/...psr7vgtny1.jpg

The NNOF was a bit of something making the black plate faulty across those several cards.

A solvent stain would usually only affect one sheet. Maybe 2-3 if it was really bad, but usually just one since the surfacing keeps the stuff from soaking through. The thinning would have affected all the colors the same way.

Here's a card printed on thinned stock. It's from a makeready sheet where the corner was torn off to mark where the test sheets ended and the good ones began. The borders and blue are the most visible, and in person you can see how they both just fade out. The blanket presses into depressions, but it can only go so far.
I saw the sheet the card was from intact at the dealers before it got cut into singles. Tried to buy the whole thing, but couldn't afford a wrongback sheet. Settled for the corner card with the torn off corner.

Steve B
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3243

Found a red factory print line that crosses over 2 separate cards. Starts on the bottom of the Muffett card and crosses onto the Heman card which appears on an uncut sheet to the left.

1964 #289 Funk
 

Can anyone figure out what the writing says at the bottom? I also have no clue about the other closeup from the left.

Nevermind

I would assume that says, "1964 Rookie Stars" from an adjoining card. The Yankees rookies are red, and there are probably others.

1960 #459 Reds Coaches
 

This yellow dot at the left is prevalent in about 33 to 40% of the cards of it on eBay. It is extremely easy to find if anyone is after such issues.

I love this one. Not sure why. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d3ba398f00.jpg


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Hey guys,

With Jim Wynn being my inductee into the Hall of Mediocrity I collect all things Toy Cannon. This is a cool print variation of which I now have 6 examples. I've seen it called the "Target" variation on eBay so that's what I call it too. I'm collecting as many as I can find so if you have any and don't really want it please let me know.

Thanks,

AndyH



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1972
 

Andy---I picked up one of those awhile back. Same seller threw in the other one below with weird cloud look

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1495308669

Dang it Al! I really thought I might've had one you didn't have yet. ;)

I had not noticed this variation on this card, or others from 69 either...however, the last name "Horton" appears closer to the first name "Willie" on some copies while on other copies the first and last names appear farther apart.

Those are caused bu a slight upward Magenta print offset. It is why the card on the left is a little fuzzy and you can see the small magenta strips, like the one above his belt.

That makes perfect sense....I have several horizontal magenta strips on my copy also

The blue Aarons are old news :-}


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-TOPPS-3...4AAOSwPe1UAigc

I wonder if they would like to purchase my blue background yellow logo card so they have 3 variations.:D

I came across this 68 Ribant card with a recurring white print spot to the right of his head.

The 1975 Fred Lynn rookie was a hot card when I was 12 years old due to the white splotch on it. We all kept opening packs hoping to find one without the splotch, but never did.

Then to keep it interesting Topps did a 1990 Turn back the clock, and 2001 Archive card using the same picture, but it still had the splotch on it.

I wonder if the original exists in the Topps Vault without the defect?

At first glance I assumed it was just his arm

After about forty years of seeing that card and owning one I never noticed that whited out area. Is it possibly a crude Topps airbrushing out of his Pawtucket minor league uniform he was wearing?

I assumed the same. It always appeared to me to be an image of him wearing a really baggy uniform and posing in an awkward position. It appeared to me that he was resting his arms on something shoulder high and looking back at the camera, almost like Rich Hebner on his 78 Topps card


More likely, as Cliff mentions, a poor airbrushing job.

Airbrushing
 

What exactly is airbrushing anyway ?

Cliff that would make some sense except he has the Boston cap ?

This might be stretching it, but I am going with the theory that someone at Topps turned the fancy P on his Pawtucket cap into a fancy B for a Red Sox emblem with airbrushing. Maybe I better quit while I am behind :o.

I was kind of serious about the airbrushing question. It seems that term covers a lot of stuff Topps may have done to cards

I think your theory is as good as any. If so they did a better job on his B than on the Popovich card previously :-)

Looks like I was off on the 1974 Pawtucket fancy P theory, they used a plain P hat back then. I did find another photo though, it looks like that white area may actually be his uniform. ETA, I will go back to my original theory that Topps airbrushed the Pawtucket cap and uniform (pretty good on the cap, crudely on the uniform) to make it look like a Red Sox uniform. It looks like an airbrush artist touched up the uniform for the 1982 Kmart card and greatly improved the appearance.

Maybe the Kmart card is why I felt he was leaning against something shoulder high....really bad that I completely forgot about one of the most overproduced cards of all time(at least from the early 80s). I wonder why the 82 Kmart card's image was not used on the 90TBC card?

1952 Topps 280 Boyer
 

Not sure if this has been noted before or not, but I noticed this recurring red line on the bottom edge of this 52 280 Boyer card. Are there other 52s with similar red lines on other 52s (including the card below the 280 card on an original sheet)?

I think Irv may have flagged this one above. It is getting hard to keep track. We need an index. There may be at least one more on here somewhere, will check

I was not sure if this had been flagged or not...I did not see it mentioned on Richard D's list (he usually keeps his list updated fairly well and I use his list as my index). This thread is getting too long to find previously mentioned cards like this so I rely more on Richard's list. Hopefully Irv will recall.

Do you have this variation Al?

Sliphorn posted it first. Irv followed up ....and then you in post 606 :). This is officially a double dip ;) I am afraid to look at how many times I have done that in here

See 678 for red at top of Masi

Thank you for finding that Al. I actually already posted my (original) copy in that series of posts....I upgraded my 280 recently and rediscovered the red line on my original copy. I am hoping Richard keeps updating his "database" of variations so we are all not "rediscovering" this stuff.

Yes, and we should assign Richard the job of indexing this thread too :)

I agree! Lots of posts with many anomalies/variations so it's no wonder we get duplicates. Not sure if my pic still exists in that older post, but here it is again.
(mine is hard to see at the very bottom of the card but it is there)

I think this gives Cloyd the lead in appearances :)

LOL. So he was still there. :D

Richard is usually pretty quick in updating his list from the posts appearing in this thread....the #280 red line variation may have been overlooked as the 283 Masi is listed. This thread, on the other hand, may be a little tougher to index.....

I appreciate the resource!


https://sites.google.com/site/richar...riations-lists

70 bb
 

I used to have the '70 set and don't remember seeing these. How common are they? Referring to the darker charcoal borders. Any price premium? Thanks for any information, I have 3 of them.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4255/3...08f8b74e_b.jpg