T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

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Four more new inputs to this Joe Doyle survey. None of these 4 inputs have the "printer's mark" in their caption.

Hey guys, show us your T206 Joe Doyle cards. Let's see if we can find a few more with this "printer's mark".



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ersMark75x.jpg



UPDATED May 15, 2020 (362 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........11..........141

Sweet Cap 350.......7...........136

Polar Bear..............4............31

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........16

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
____________________________

Totals.................. 23 ........ 339


23 - Joe Doyle cards with this printer's mark...... 23/362 = 6.3 %



TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Since last week, 6 more Joe Doyle inputs. But still no additional "printer's marks". Sean posted his "printer's mark" Doyle a week ago, and Sean's card is the only one of the
17 new inputs (so far). My 13-year Survey suggests that on an average, 1 out of 16 cards are found with this "printer's mark". Perhaps, the more samples we get, the more
rare these Joe Doyle cards with this "mark" become. Hey guys, how about playing in this game by posting your Joe Doyle's here to continue this survey.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...edoylenatl.bmphttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350xSOV350.jpg
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -^ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Printer's Mark - - - -^ (remnant of "N" in Nat'L)


UPDATED May 17, 2020 (368 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........11..........144

Sweet Cap 350.......7...........138

Polar Bear..............4............31

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........17

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
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x
Totals.................. 23 ........ 345


23 - Joe Doyle cards with this printer's mark...... 23/368 = 6.2 %


TED Z
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Ted,

My Doyle is attached, no printer's mark.

https://i.imgur.com/g4OHbyX.jpg

T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

T206fanatic....Fantastic Joe Doyle card. It's one of the nicest I've ever seen.

Thanks for posting it here, Jeff.


UPDATED May 19, 2020 (369 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........11..........144

Sweet Cap 350.......7...........139

Polar Bear..............4............31

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........17

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
____________________________
x
Totals.................. 23 ........ 346


23 - Joe Doyle cards with this printer's mark...... 23/369 = 6.2 %


TED Z
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I thought I had more but I only have this one card. It doesn't have the extra mark. The previous post with the super nice high grade perfectly centered card reminded me of this card. I bought it for the centering on the front. Edited to add: What a difference the right scanner makes. I've always used scanners that were transparency negatives compatible since the mid 1990's.

http://www.unclenacki.com/net54/joedoylefront.jpg
http://www.unclenacki.com/net54/joedoyleback.jpg

T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *

. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x14.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg


Hey Ron

Thanks for your POLAR BEAR Joe Doyle input. Did you know that PSA graded an obvious fake Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'L card that has a POLAR BEAR back ?


UPDATED May 20, 2020 (370 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........11..........144

Sweet Cap 350.......7...........139

Polar Bear..............4............32

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........17

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
____________________________
x
Totals.................. 23 ........ 347


23 - Joe Doyle cards with this printer's mark...... 23/370 = 6.2 %


TED Z
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Hi Ted, I wasn't aware of that. Have you seen the card? Is it super obvious?

T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

Hi Ron

It was on display at the Cleveland National several years ago. The fake "Nat'L" lettering
in it's caption looked pretty good.
What was "super obvious" that it was a fake was it's POLAR BEAR back.

All 9 authentic Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'L cards exist ONLY with the PIEDMONT 350 back.


TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *

. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x14.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg


It appears that this subject matter here is reaching an end. A friendly bump to give this topic one more try by posting the regular Joe Doyle cards
in my PIEDMONT - - - - SOVEREIGN - - - - SWEET CAPORAL sets.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...mont350x25.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...esovereign.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...joedoylesc.jpg


TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE...... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card
 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x14.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg



Well, I have 2 more new inputs to this Joe Doyle survey. Neither of these 2 inputs have this "printer's mark" in their caption. This 13-year Survey suggests to us that we can
expect to find the this "printer's mark" on a Joe Doyle card the average of only ONE out of every 16 cards.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ersMark75x.jpg
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Printer's mark - -^



UPDATED May 26, 2020 (372 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........13..........146

Sweet Cap 350.......7...........139

Polar Bear..............4............32

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........17

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
____________________________

Totals.................. 23 ........ 349

23 - Joe Doyle cards with this printer's mark...... 23/372 = 6.18%


TED Z
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