Ted

We do have different opinions on many things in the t206 set but it's not
an opinion that Plank is a 150/350 subject it is a fact.

150 only means exactly what it states only printed with 150 series backs.
Not only was Plank printed with a SC350/30 back of all the know examples
there are twice as many SC350/30 backs as there are Piedmont and Sweet
Caporal 150 backs.

In this Plank Gallery of the examples with back images there are 16 PD150
and SC150's and 34 SC350/30's.

http://www.t206resource.com/Plank-Gallery.html

Some cards in the 150's were printed three different times.
And I'm fairly certain that the masters were changed between the 150 and 350 series, and that the first P350's were done on leftover sheets from 150 production.
350's also were redone, maybe also 3 times, but usually the adjustments were less obvious.

The 150, 150/350 thing is a start, but a simplification that we should let go.

T206 Eddie Plank story
 

Hey guys,

Well, I am going to repeat here (for those who have not heard this before) what I've mentioned about this subject
several times in the past on this forum. The Plank card is a unique oddity in the T206 set. Here is how it starts......

As I've mentioned above (Post #1080) and numerous times in the past, Eddie Plank disdained any form of tobacco.
He informed ATC that he did not want his image on their Tobacco card. I researched all this years ago, including a
conversation with a Philadelphia lawyer, who informed me that you needed only a "cease and desist" order in 1909
to prevent your image from appearing on anything that offended you. Plank is depicted on numerous E-type Candy
cards during that period. The only other Tobacco card he appears on is the 1909 Ramly. At the end of his Major Lge.
career (circa 1916) he's featured in the T216 Tobacco cards (KOTTON, MINO, VIRGINIA EXTRA brands). These were
not ATC brands. The images on these card are from the printing firm which produced the E90-type cards.

The T206 Plank card cannot be referred to as a "150/350" card since it was NOT printed with any combination of
EPDG, OLD MILL, PIEDMONT 350, SOVEREIGN, TOLSTOI backs (as are most 150/350 subjects). The Plank card is
indeed a 150-only subject. Plank was on the same sheet that the famous Gretzky Wagner was cut from.

American Lithographic printing the Plank card with the SWEET CAP 350 Factory #30 back is most likely the result of
ATC's desire to continue featuring Plank in the T206 set. Plank was very popular by 1908. In his first 8 years he had
167 victories (a remarkable average of 21 games Won per season).

I could continue with more stuff regarding my research into the T206 Plank, however I think enough said for now. I
have more important things to attend to today, than my repetition of stories that I've said before on this forum.


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Hi Mike

Very interesting. I only have 150 Series green Cobb's.

Comparing my PIEDMONT 150 and SOVEREIGN 150 green Cobb's, the images and green color appear very similar....and, very nice.

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In 2007, I completed a basic set of 402 different SOVEREIGN cards in less than 11 months. Having accomplished this, I went on to doing an all - SOVEREIGN master set.
However, I found this challenge to be quite a frustrating experience. Certain 150/350 subjects are very difficult to find with SOVEREIGN 150 backs. Illustrated here is an
example of this enigma. It took me at least 2 years to get the 150 version of this Wiltse card. Other "toughies that come to mind are....Bell, Camnitz, Flick, Fielder Jones,
Weimer, etc. Anyway, I'm on my way to completing this 476-card master set.

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I received a couple of emails from Net54 guys, one of which requested a master set checklist for an all - SOVEREIGN set. And, here
it is......

The SOVEREIGN set comprises of 402 different T206 subjects. And, a complete master SOVEREIGN set comprises of 476 cards.


150-only Series..............12 subjects confirmed.

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Ames (hands at chest)
M. Brown (Cubs)
G. Browne (Chicago Nat'L)
Burch (batting)
Donlin (fielding)
L. Doyle (throwing)
Evers (Cubs-batting)
Pattee (horizontal)
Pelty (horizontal)
Powers
Reulbach (glove)
Schulte (with bat)


150/350 Series..................138 confirmed with "150 SUBJECTS" backs

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Alperman
Ames (portrait)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bell (hands over head)
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (bat)
Birmingham
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)

Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
Clarke (bat)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (green)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)
Criger
Criss
Dahlen (Boston Nat'L)
George Davis (Chicago)
Harry Davis (A's)
Delehanty (Washington)
Devlin
Donlin (seated)
Donohue
Donovan (portrait)

Dooin
Doolin
Dougherty (portrait)
Durham
Elberfeld (New York Amer.)
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ferris
Flick
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Goode
Griffith (portrait)
Hahn
Hemphill
Herzog (New York Nat'L)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Isbell
Jacklitsch

Johnson (portrait)
F. Jones (portrait)
F. Jones (hands at hips)
T. Jones (St Louis Amer.)
Jordan (portrait)
Joss (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Killian (pitching)
Kleinow (bat)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York)
Leach (portrait)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Lindaman

Lobert
Lumley
Magee (portrait)
Manning (bat)
Marquard (hands at side)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)
McGraw (pointing)
McIntyre (Brooklyn)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Merkle (portrait)
Mullin (horizontal)
Murphy (horizontal)
Nicholls (hands on knees)
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
O'Leary (portrait)
Overall (portrait)
Owen

Parent
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing)
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis Nat'L)
Sheckard (no glove)
Shipke
F. Smith (Chicago)
Spade
Spencer
Stahl (no glove
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stone
Stovall (portrait)
Sullivan

L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tenney
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (hands on knees)
Turner
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wagner (bat on left)
Wallace
Walsh
Weimer
Doc White (portrait)
Wilhelm (hands at chest)
Williams
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


150/350 Series..................70 confirmed with "350 SUBJECTS" backs

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Ames (portrait)
Bell (hands over head)
Bender (portrait)
Birmingham
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Cicotte
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Crawford (throwing)
Criger
Criss
Devlin
Donlin (seated)
Donohue
Dooin
Dougherty (portrait)
Elberfeld (New York Amer.)

Ferris
Flick
Goode
Griffith (portrait)
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)
F. Jones (portrait)
F. Jones (hands at hips)
Joss (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Kleinow (bat)
Kling
Lajoie (portrait)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Manning (bat)
Mathewson (portrait)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)

McGraw (pointing)
Merkle (portrait)
Murphy (horizontal)
Nicholls (hands on knees)
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
O'Leary (portrait)
Parent
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis Nat'L)
Sheckard (no glove)
Shipke
F. Smith (Chicago)
Stahl (no glove
Stone
Stovall (portrait)
Sullivan
Tenney
Tinker (hands on knees)
Turner

Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wallace
Walsh
Weimer
Doc White (portrait)
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


SOVEREIGN 350-only Series.......... 138confirmed subjects

Abbott
Anderson
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milw)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Brain
Browne (Washington)
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Byrne

Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chappelle
Clancy
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert

Easterly
Egan
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fromme
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)

Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)
McCormick

McGann
McGinley
McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mowrey
Myers (fielding)
Oakes
Oberlin
O'Brien
O'Hara (NY Nat'L)
O'Neill

Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rossman
Schmidt (portrait)
Scott
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Speaker

Stanage
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann
Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman


"350/460 Series"...................... 66 subjects (apple green backs)

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle

Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (New York Amer.)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)

Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)

Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


460-only Series...................... 46 subjects confirmed

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand at waist)

Hummel
Lake, St. Louis (ball)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


The Six Super-Prints were also printed with SOVEREIGN 460 backs.

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)

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Whoops ! .....I'm really referring to antique CARDS :) Anyhow, just showing-off this classic from my youth.....the 312 cu.-inch T-bird engine still "purrs".


This Herzog card is one of several unique cards which are (or were) in my T206 collection. The recent provenance of this card dates back to circa 1990's.
My great ole friend, Ralph Triplette, acquired this card from a small BB card shop in his town of Sylva, NC. When I visited him 7 years ago, we did a nice
deal for it.
This Herzog card is still the only one known with a UZIT back.

OK show us your unique T206 card(s). Furthermore the stories regarding these T206's are sometimes very interesting, so feel free to tell us about them.


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I acquired this AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 Jennings card quite a number of years ago. Until recently, it was the only one known with an AB 460
back. Now, the PSA pop report has two new ones listed (graded 1.5 and 2).

I sold this card to David Hall several Chicago National Shows ago. So now you'll find this Jennings listed in the PSA pop report as a 5 (David
had it re-graded). And, this same card is still listed in the SGC pop report as a 60 (I had it graded when SGC was in New Jersey, circa 2010).


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Ted, I have several brown old mills, brown Lenox, and an E Collins blank back that are currently 1 of 1. I will try to post tmrw. I have many that are less than 5, and a few that are 1 of 2, but I don’t think I have any more “common” back 1 of 1s.

In 2013 I bought this Ames in Sterling. It was described as "unknown and thought to be not possible." I later traded it to a board member who said a few more had surfaced. I got a T205 Bresnahan closed mouth Piedmont 42 for it.