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tedzan 11-12-2020 08:38 PM

T206 REFERENCE.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)
 
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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2034636)
In 2013 I bought this Ames in Sterling. It was described as "unknown and thought to be not possible." I later traded it to a board member who said a few more had surfaced. I got a T205 Bresnahan closed mouth Piedmont 42 for it.

Rob.....you got the best of that trade deal. The T206 Ames (SC #42) is not that rare as is the T205 Bresnahan with the PIEDMONT #42 back.

The Ames with a SC 460 Factory #42 was known many years ago. In fact, 35 subjects of the 350/460 series (of which Ames is in this group) are found with this back.
Furthermore, this particular SC back is a "kissing cousin" with the red HINDU back. These 2 backs were printed simultaneously. To date, 33 of this group of 35 subjects
are confirmed with red HINDU backs. But, Ames has yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. My prediction is the Ames will discovered with the red HINDU back.


TED Z

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brianp-beme 11-12-2020 08:49 PM

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I have this Magee that seemed to me to be a card that shouldn't exist (Sweet Caporal 460 factory 30), until I showed it on here and the speculation was that the overstrike was not printed.

So probably a misprint, but I still haven't seen any other like it...

Brian

RCMcKenzie 11-12-2020 08:59 PM

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Ted, I was going with the AH's description, I had no knowledge at the time whether it existed or not. I don't think the Resource site had confirmed it in 2013. Maybe Sterling remembers the details. Anyway paid $55 and traded it soon after for the T205.

Here's a Doc Crandall Red Hindu, not a 1/1, but a low pop card. A Uzit popped up on here and I had a couple of chances to bid on it later, but did not.

RCMcKenzie 11-12-2020 09:13 PM

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Also, here's a Crandall SC460 42. Sorry to get off track from the 1/1's. I'll try and think if I had or have anything that came close to a 1/1. If I still had my 1980 Fiat or 1973 BMW 2002, I would post those, sadly, they are long ago traded away.

tedzan 11-13-2020 07:28 AM

T206 REFERENCE.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)
 
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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2034664)
Also, here's a Crandall SC460 42. Sorry to get off track from the 1/1's. I'll try and think if I had or have anything that came close to a 1/1. If I still had my 1980 Fiat or 1973 BMW 2002, I would post those, sadly, they are long ago traded away.

Rob

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tCap460x42.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...HINDUx25bx.jpg


American Lithographic printed 47 subjects with the red HINDU back and it's "cousin", SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #42.

350/460 series....35 subjects confirmed with SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #42. To date, 32 of these 35 subjects have
been confirmed with red HINDU.

Ames (hands above head) **
Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chase (blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)

Konetchy (glove low)
Magee (bat)
Mathewson (dark cap) **
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove) **
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


** Note.... the following 3 subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. My prediction is that all three
will eventually be discovered.

Ames (hands above head)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Reulbach (no glove)


460-only series......Exclusive 12 (confirmed with red HINDU and SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #42.

Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat


TED Z

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Ronnie73 11-13-2020 09:56 AM

I believe these are my only one of one's so far.

T206 Nap Lajoie With Bat - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "No Print"

http://www.unclenacki.com/net54/lajoie.jpg

T206 Jack Powell - Old Mill "Blue Ink" Back

http://www.myt206.com/net54/powellfront500.jpghttp://www.myt206.com/net54/powellback500.jpg

Pat R 11-13-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2034624)
I acquired this AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 Jennings card quite a number of years ago. Until recently, it was the only one known with an AB 460
back. Now, the PSA pop report has two new ones listed (graded 1.5 and 2).

I sold this card to David Hall several Chicago National Shows ago. So now you'll find this Jennings listed in the PSA pop report as a 5 (David
had it re-graded). And, this same card is still listed in the SGC pop report as a 60 (I had it graded when SGC was in New Jersey, circa 2010).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ningsSGC60.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sHand50xbx.jpg



TED Z

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FYI Ted there are a minimum of five Jennings, there are two different PSA 2's
one was graded years ago before they started putting the backs on the
flips. There's also a 2nd SGC 60.

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tedzan 11-13-2020 11:38 AM

T206 REFERENCE.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)
 
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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2034792)
FYI Ted there are a minimum of five Jennings, there are two different PSA 2's
one was graded years ago before they started putting the backs on the
flips. There's also a 2nd SGC 60.

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The SGC card of Jennings you have displayed is the exactly same one I originally had. This is obvious by the same "diamond cut" on all of three
of these cards on display. Furthermore, it's obvious that it has gone thru a 4th iteration of SGC Grading.

When I acquired it was Graded by SGC as an "A"......

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ngsHandx50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ningsSGC60.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...gsHandx50b.jpg ----------------------- http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sHand50xbx.jpg

I cracked open the "A" version (card on left) and re-submitted it to SGC (about 10 years ago). Which resulted in the "60" Grade version.

You can trace the progress of these iterative Gradings by simply observing the Serial #s on their flips. Obviously, there was an intermittent
Grading of this card from the one you have displayed, in which it received an "A" grade.

As I have said, I acquired this card with its "A" Grade. I paid a very reasonable price for it (I guess because of this Grade).

I will reprise what I stated (in post #1088)....years ago when I acquired this AB 460 Jennings card, it was the only one known at that time.


TED Z

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Pat R 11-13-2020 11:54 AM

Ted the SGC 60 you posted is definitely not the same card as the SGC 60 I posted.

t206fanatic 11-13-2020 12:43 PM

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I'm the current owner of the Ted / David Jennings, and I agree its a different card than the SGC60 Pat posted.


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