Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2038525)

OK, continuing playing this game of "Unique Antique" cards, here's my 1910 COUPON Matty McIntyre.

This card is the only one listed in the PSA pop report. The last time I looked at the SGC pop report on
these COUPON cards there were no Matty McIntyre's listed.

Perhaps, Rob McK. will chime in, since he has a near complete set of these rare gems.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onMcIntyre.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nMcIntyreb.jpg



TED Z

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2040422)

Nice card,Ted, here is the Matty McIntyre that I have. It's raw in a cardsaver. I see one graded on psa and one on sgc. a 1.5.

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2040343)

You are assuming that all 35 subjects were equally submitted for grading. THIS IS NOT SO ! And, I'm sure you know this.

A large number of T206 collectors get their Cobb, Johnson, Matty, CYoung cards GRADED. However, many T206 collectors (like me) DO NOT
bother to get their less valuable cards graded. There are many, many T206 sets (and stars and commons) that are NOT GRADED. Therefore,
comparing Cobb (or Johnson, Matty, CYoung) with the remaining cards in this Group of 35 is inconsequential.

My theory (presented approx 10 years ago), hypothesized that American Litho (ALC) divided the 63 subjects of the 350/460 series into two
groups when ALC started printing the 460-type backs.......this theory has withstood the test of time.

Group A comprises of these 35 subjects. Group B consists of the remaining 28 subjects in the 350/460 series. ALC printed sheets of T206's
with basic formats of 12, 36, 48, etc. cards.

Therefore with Group A having 35 subjects, ALC needed one more subject. The red Cobb is ATC's "signature T206" so it's a pretty good guess
that the Red Cobb was Double-Printed this format.


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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2040467)

I'm not assuming that at all. I know that Cobb would be submitted
more than any of the others for grading and cracked out and resubmitted
too. If he was printed twice as much as the others subjects his pop number
should be far more than double any of the other subjects.

The sales don't reflect him being double printed either this is a list of all
of the card target sales raw and graded by all company's since 2008 for
the 35 subjects with a SC350/460 factory 42 back.

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2040484)

Those cardtarget sales numbers are not an accurate reflection of the actual red Cobb transactions.

I've been a collector for over 40 years, and a part-time dealer for almost 40 years. I have bought, sold, traded, and graded at least 24 red Cobb's
during that time. And, that's just me..... a small time-dealer.

Furthermore, currently in my T206 collection are 7 red Cobb's (different backs). Plus, in recent years I have sold 4 red Cobb's with SWEET CAP 350-460, Factory #42 backs.

TED Z

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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2040503)

Card target doesn't record all sales but it does record most of the auction
house and ebay sales. It recorded the sale of McIntyre you posted when it sold earlier this year.

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2040542)

Pat

THANK YOU.... for agreeing with me regarding cardtarget does NOT account for all sales.

There are many private sales (at Shows, Net54 BST, etc., etc.) that they are unaware of.


TED Z
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Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 2041650)

I have 4 of these missing color. I like this one the best.