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aljurgela 03-14-2022 12:03 PM

No... I do not have those Roland
 
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Al, I asked you if you had the two #68 cards of Orestes Miñoso and you didn't answer, maybe you haven't seen them, they are rare, now I show them.

Also, where is your book for sale in Spain?

Roland 49 03-14-2022 09:34 PM

Al Jurgela
 
Greetings Al, if those Miñoso cards are very rare, as for the question you ask me about the catalog, I answer that it is not that it is sold in Spain, what I have always said is that a Cuban friend of mine who lives in Spain, when he comes to Cuba and takes the ones he has at that moment and he sells them on ebay cubanbaseball, the last time he took the three volumes, but I don't know if he sold them, because right now I have no connection with ebay, but I published it because They ask me, last week one of the members of net54, who had ordered volume 2 from me, will deliver it to a person who travels to the United States and when he arrives, will he send it to him along with other things he wanted, when my friend Victor come back to Cuba from Spain, you will surely take the ones you order from me days before the trip.

Roland 49 03-16-2022 09:42 PM

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I show 2 photos of the games of the memory in the 60s to 90s, in the 1st to Rodolfo Fernández, Cocaina García and Agapito Mayor, in the 2nd Orlando Peña and my friend Ruben Guedes, semi-pro league player.

Roland 49 03-18-2022 05:31 PM

A few days ago I was reading an auction where José Mendez and other cards from the Romeo y Julieta cigar collection were, but I have no connection and I don't know the result, I would appreciate it if someone who reads me informs me of these cards.

GeoPoto 03-20-2022 12:43 PM

They included: F. Espineira; R. Ramos; and M. Santamaria.

Roland 49 03-20-2022 04:09 PM

Romeo y Julieta 1922
 
Jorge, thanks, but what I asked was the result of the auction, that is: how much did they pay for Mendez's cards, another from an Almendares player and the amateurs that you mention, I'm interested in knowing how much they paid for each one $$$ .

Schlesinj 03-20-2022 05:54 PM

With buyers premium
Mendez 19,470
Hidalgo 1,427
$519 for the other 3 mentioned previously.

Roland 49 03-20-2022 08:31 PM

Jamie, I am very grateful for the information, but that was the final price? since you mention before BP and taxes, or is it the price with the discounts? Thank you very much

Schlesinj 03-20-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland 49 (Post 2207554)
Jamie, I am very grateful for the information, but that was the final price? since you mention before BP and taxes, or is it the price with the discounts? Thank you very much

I updated my previous post.

Roland 49 03-20-2022 10:17 PM

Jamie, thank you very much for the information, without very rare cards, years ago when the first of the professionals appeared, they invited me to comment on them, since before putting them on ebay, they took them to my house, I had them from that year 1922, but amateurs, and from that previous group, those that did not sell on ebay, I bought them and have them in my collection, I explained my considerations, by the date that appears on the back and the date they were printed 1922, I always expressed that they were original and not fakes, these that were sold were never in my hands, and I have not seen them, but I think they are from that series, I would like to see them front and back, thanks.

Schlesinj 03-20-2022 10:41 PM

Here is a link to the grading company press release with an image of the Mendez:

https://www.csgcards.com/news/articl...1-b49dc6c7fdd4

Here is a link to the auction Mendez website:

https://www.hakes.com/Auction/ItemDe...KIN-COLLECTION

Here is auction for the Hidalgo:
https://www.hakes.com/Auction/ItemDe...KIN-COLLECTION

Thank you for all the time and valuable information you add to this forum. I have learned and seen a tremendous amount of information since you have become a member.

Roland 49 03-25-2022 03:48 PM

Jamie
 
Thank you very much for the information on the Romeo and Juliet cards, the most important ones are those of the Almendares team, but the amateur ones are also rare.

Roland 49 03-26-2022 05:58 PM

Romeo y Julieta 1922
 
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Romeo y Julieta 1922 Cigars, now I show a photo of Volume #1 of my Specialized Catalog where you can see the pages dedicated to the collection of those cards.

Roland 49 03-29-2022 08:24 PM

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"Caramelos El Indio", Max Manning's card is shown.

Roland 49 03-31-2022 08:25 PM

Adolfo Luque #20 Caramelos Stadium
 
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From the "Caramelos Stadium" card collection I show two cards with different faces of Adolfo Luque, this collection is rare

GeoPoto 04-01-2022 09:42 AM

Profesor Manning
 
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Nicknamed Dr. Cyclops, Manning began his professional baseball career with the Negro League's Newark Eagles in 1938 and would spend the majority of his playing days in Newark (1939-1942, 1946-1948). A member of the championship 1946 Eagles team, Max finished that season with a record of 11-1 along with the second highest strikeout total in the league that season. Manning also served four years of military service during World War II from 1942-45.

From Manning's SABR biography: The (1946) season began with a bang as Day pitched an Opening Day no-hitter on May 5 against the Philadelphia Stars. Manning recalled losing his first start but recovering quickly, saying, “Oh, Lord, it’s going to be a bad season for me. That damn army … and so on. Then I won 15 straight.” Mackey — with his fellow future Hall of Famers Day, Doby, and Irvin back in the fold — led the Eagles on a season-long tear through the NNL. Newark finished 50-20-2 in league play, and 56-24-3 against all competition, as the team won both the first- and second-half NNL titles.

Kansas City had posted a 43-14 record in NAL play and, like Newark, had won its league’s pennant without a playoff series. The Monarchs had their own stable full of future Hall of Famers, including outfielder Willard Brown, pitcher Hilton Smith, and the immortal Satchel Paige. Thus, the World Series ended up being a tight affair that required the full seven games to determine which team would be the champion of the Negro Leagues in 1946.

The Monarchs prevailed, 2-1, in Game One at New York’s Polo Grounds on September 17. Two days later, boxer Joe Louis threw out the first pitch prior to Game Two in which Manning took the mound at Ruppert Stadium and pitched a complete game, striking out eight, as Newark evened the series with a 7-4 victory. The teams split the next two games before Manning made his second start in Game Five at Comiskey Park in Chicago. Manning again went the distance and struck out seven Monarchs batters, but he lost a 5-1 decision as the Monarchs took a three-games-to-two lead in the series. The Eagles then came back to win Games Six and Seven, 9-7 and 3-2, at Ruppert Stadium to claim the title.

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Roland 49 04-03-2022 03:52 PM

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Album "Caramelos Stadium" 1955-56, I show card #16 of Ben Wade, notice that the negative of the photo was inverted, you can see it on the cap, besides different signs, these cards are rare.

Roland 49 04-07-2022 04:01 PM

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Now I show two photos of a baseball game from the early 50s, taken from a television, in one of them you can see Rafael Noble of the Cienfuegos team and below the advertising sign for Competidora cigars, in the other Orteig and below Cristal Beer advertising.

Roland 49 04-11-2022 07:13 PM

Spalding Guide in Spanish 1885
 
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Now I show a rarity, the first Spalding Guide in Spanish from 1885.

Jason19th 04-11-2022 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland 49 (Post 2214408)
Now I show a rarity, the first Spalding Guide in Spanish from 1885.

Is it a translation of the American guide or does it have entirely different content with coverage of Cuban baseball.

Roland 49 04-12-2022 04:51 PM

Spalding Guide in Spanish 1885 ( cont)
 
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Jason, I answer the question of the Spalding Guide in Spanish from 1885, they were authorized to be printed in Cuba, they have some information about baseball in the United States, and the regulations of that year, but the most information is about Cuban baseball, the different teams and the leagues that existed at that time, very interesting data, Valentin E. Frau, was also authorized to send information to Spalding to publish in the United States guide, I show you some photos of the guide that I took a while ago , if you who read me in this thread are interested, I will continue with this topic, let me know.

ElCabron 04-15-2022 02:51 PM

Rolando, that 1885 Cuban Spalding Guide is incredible! I've never seen it before.

Roland 49 04-15-2022 06:04 PM

Spalding Guide in Spanish 1911
 
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Ryan, 1885 is super rare, Spalding Guide in Spanish,1911 and inerior page.

Roland 49 04-18-2022 12:08 PM

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Now I was informed by an email that I received, that my three Catalogs are for sale on ebay cubanbaseball, and I inform those who read me in this thread because I have received some emails asking me what they want to have them, I inform you that from Volume 1 , 10 copies have been printed, of Volume 2, 6 printed, and of volume 3, 5 copies have been printed, for the moment those are the last ones.

Roland 49 04-20-2022 08:43 PM

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First edition of "El Base-Ball en La Habana Matanzas y Cardenas" 1907 by Raoul Diez Muro.

Schlesinj 04-21-2022 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland 49 (Post 2216424)
Now I was informed by an email that I received, that my three Catalogs are for sale on ebay cubanbaseball, and I inform those who read me in this thread because I have received some emails asking me what they want to have them, I inform you that from Volume 1 , 10 copies have been printed, of Volume 2, 6 printed, and of volume 3, 5 copies have been printed, for the moment those are the last ones.

I looked the day you posted and can’t find anything. Maybe it is my search skills, but I searched by seller name and a generic Cuban baseball card catalog. Anyone have a link?

mannybb24 04-21-2022 05:26 AM

Here’s a link to one of his catalogs, the other two you’ll find in the sellers store.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32515260237...mis&media=COPY

Schlesinj 04-21-2022 01:33 PM

Thank you, just bought it.

Roland 49 04-22-2022 12:33 PM

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Now I show the 2nd edition of 1908, of El Base Ball en La Habana Matanzas y Cárdenas, by Raúl Diez Muro, this edition contains very interesting photos.

Roland 49 04-24-2022 03:20 PM

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History of Professional Base Ball in Cuba, This is the name of the 3rd edition of Raul Diez Muro's book, this one from 1949, previously I showed the 1st from 1907 and the 2nd from 1908, of this one from 1949 two different ones were printed in printing material , the normal one with a large number of copies and another deluxe one, with very few, printed on quality and glossy paper, to give to your friends, I have both, but the deluxe one is a rarity, I have it with dedication and signature from Diez Muro, I've only seen the one I have in my collection.

Jason19th 04-24-2022 04:38 PM

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History of Professional Base Ball in Cuba, This is the name of the 3rd edition of Raul Diez Muro's book, this one from 1949, previously I showed the 1st from 1907 and the 2nd from 1908, of this one from 1949 two different ones were printed in printing material , the normal one with a large number of copies and another deluxe one, with very few, printed on quality and glossy paper, to give to your friends, I have both, but the deluxe one is a rarity, I have it with dedication and signature from Diez Muro, I've only seen the one I have in my collection.

Rolando I have a couple of questions

1. Why did you have to tell me that there is a 4th Diez Muro. I thought I had the complete set at three (and thought I might have the only complete set in existence
2. Why do my copies look like they have run over by a truck and yours look like they were just printed yesterday

Misunderestimated 04-24-2022 05:29 PM

I just wanted to chime in and say that this is one of the most interesting threads I've read and I've been here from the start -- when we "migrated" from the "Full Count Board" way back when.

I also want to be among those thanking Roland for sharing his collection, knowledge, and passions for these wonderful and still mysterious cards. I have only a few and are among the prizes in my collection. I hope to add to that small group.

I think the first I heard about the Cuban issues was in an article in the Vintage Collector magazine, which was a high quality actual paper magazine back in the 1990s. Since then this board and some of members have been the best sources for learning about these issues.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that this is the kind of thread that realizes the potential of this board and I'm just thankful for that.::)

Roland 49 04-24-2022 08:54 PM

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Jason, I have been lucky enough to get them for a good price in good condition, now in photos you will see some, I show a photo of the books with dedication and signed by Diez Muro, one of them is from the regular edition and the other from the deluxe one, look at the difference in the paper, one is yellowish and the other looks white because it is made of good quality paper, the photos look better, see Ruben Foster and other in Havana Team.

Roland 49 04-26-2022 04:43 PM

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Cuban commemorative coin of the Signey Olympiad 2000,

Roland 49 04-28-2022 09:30 PM

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"Base Ball in Cuba and America" ​​1908, a great book with many facts about Cuban and American baseball, is a rare and hard to find book.

Roland 49 05-01-2022 12:02 PM

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The baseball narrators in the cards, in 1952-53 the Victoria Collections album, printed a collection of cards with the players and also narrators, in the group that I show appear among others Rafael (Felo) Ramirez and Buck Canel, belonging to the Hall of Cooperstown Fame.

Exhibitman 05-01-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland 49 (Post 2220813)
The baseball narrators in the cards, in 1952-53 the Victoria Collections album, printed a collection of cards with the players and also narrators, in the group that I show appear among others Rafael (Felo) Ramirez and Buck Canel, belonging to the Hall of Cooperstown Fame.

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Really interesting. I know another narrator HOFer: Cuco Conde is in the boxing hall of fame.

Roland 49 05-02-2022 04:32 PM

Exibitman
 
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In this photo that I show if Cuco Conde appears, top left,

Roland 49 05-03-2022 09:50 PM

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Now I show some cards from the Victoria Collections album, in the 1st to Jiqui Moreno with his characteristic style as Pitcher, to Gilberto (El Jibarito) Torres, also another photo of Silvio Garcia and below to Orestes Miñoso, Member of the Cooperstown Hall of Fame and from Cuba.

richardcards 05-04-2022 04:59 PM

Hello
 
This is my favorite cuban set.
can you give me any information on the victoria set.
how was they distributed etc .
Thanks

Roland 49 05-05-2022 04:25 PM

Colecciones Victoria 1952-53
 
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Richard the Victoria collection is made up of 168 cards, now I show the photo of two of the pages of my Specialized Catalog that shows the Victoria collection 1952-53

richardcards 05-05-2022 04:31 PM

victoria
 
whats is the factory of victoria
what product did they make.
and how was card distributed?

thank you

Roland 49 05-06-2022 08:57 PM

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Richard, the Victoria Collections album, does not have any guidance that explains what it was, I think it is the only collection that I have not been able to decipher, I show another image of the album with the Dandridge and Mc Duffie cards.

Kenny Cole 05-06-2022 09:22 PM

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Dandridge

richardcards 05-07-2022 10:44 AM

victoria
 
Thank you.
I had feeling no one knows this information.
I hope to find out one day.
My peronal opnion is that they came in candy
sold in habana staduim.

If anyone one knows please share.

Thanks

Roland 49 05-10-2022 08:29 PM

Napoleon Reyes #73
 
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I show card #73 of Napoleón Reyes, the rarest of the "Happy Caramels" Collection 1945-46, they are all difficult, this one does not have any stamp on the top of the card and is very rare, there are several models of stamp, but the most Rare of all is the one with the prize card.

Roland 49 05-14-2022 12:59 PM

Napoleon Reyes #73
 
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In card #73 of Napoleón Reyes, there are several types of stamps, shor I show two of them, before I published the card without the stamp.

Leon 05-15-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland 49 (Post 2224828)
In card #73 of Napoleón Reyes, there are several types of stamps, shor I show two of them, before I published the card without the stamp.

As someone who likes overprints and period stamps on cards, those are great to see. Thanks again for sharing, Roland (and others too).
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Roland 49 05-17-2022 05:03 PM

Caramelos Felices #73 Premium card
 
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Leon, The rarest and most difficult card in the Caramelos Felices 1945-46 collection is the prize card, above the card a square stamp with the factory address, telephone number and the ink signature of a manager, now shown on the photo, but they are all very rare.

Roland 49 05-20-2022 06:07 PM

Martin Dihigo
 
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Today May 20 marks the 51st anniversary of the death of Martin Dihigo, "The Immortal" I show you some photos of Dihigo.


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