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T206 REFERENCE....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb
This red Cobb with a PIEDMONT #42 back is a real beauty....however, it is not a real T206. But, it sure is a darn good reprint.
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T206 REFERENCE....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb
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Hi Leon I don't understand why PSA graded your SWEET CAPORAL Cobb with such a low grade ? The Front and back look good to me. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb
Some say this Cobb is a T206, and others say not. In any event, it's absolutely a member of the ATC "signature" family.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cobbtycobb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cobbtycobb.jpg Factory #33......Reidsville, NC Circa 1910, ATC introduced this new brand..... the "Ty Cobb" Smoking Tobacco. Here is a vintage postcard of the manufacturing plant. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...xFactory33.jpg TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE.....questionable action poses on certain T206's. Show us a ?-able pose
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...duAB460x13.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGxOMx13.jpg Pictured here are the 6 toughest backs that were printed on the Exclusive 12 cards Depicted on some T206's are action poses which appear to be some what puzzling. For example, one of my favorite T206's, John McGraw (with glove). John's playing career as a player-Manager ended in 1906. This 460-Series card of him was printed and issued in late 1910 >> early 1911 (depending which Tobacco advertisement is on its back). It's kind of strange that he is portrayed with a glove, since he had not been a player for 4 years. Any thoughts why ? Actually, I do have a theory why. This McGraw card is a member of the Exclusive 12 group. It was printed with 13 different backs. His UZIT card (unique) is a relatively new find, which completed my run. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcX.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ZITxSGC30x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcB.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...VxPd4xPBxx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SOVxPd4xPB.jpg Factory #42.....................Factory #42 http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LxAB460xOM.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...xAB460xOMb.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tory30xx12.jpg . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...YCLE460x18.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CLE460x18b.jpg Factory #30 OK guys....there are a few more such enigmatic T206 action poses in the set. Check-them-out, and show-n-tell us about them. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
Ted, I assume he's just being depicted/celebrated as a Manager, who was a former player, and wearing a glove probably during pre-game fungo or throwing drills, etc.
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T206 REFERENCE.....questionable action poses on certain T206's. Show us a ?-able pose
Hi Mike....I like your take regarding "pre-game" activities. It' a good one.
McGraw's glove looks like a Catcher's mitt. So, perhaps he was getting a feel of his Pitchers stuff before the game. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE....questionable action poses on certain T206's. Show us a ?-able pose
William "Spike" Shannon from Pennsylvania (Pennsylvanians dominate in the T206 set)
was a Major Leaguer for 5 years (1904 - 1908). Played 10 years in the Minor Leagues. His 350 Series card has been mistaken by some T206 collectors as a "horizontal" card. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...350Shannon.jpg There are only 6 cards that were printed with horizontal images. They are in the 150 Series. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...zontalt206.jpg TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE....questionable action poses on certain T206's. Show us a ?-able pose
The "questionable" factor of these 2 cards** is not that they're questionable. But it's damn difficult to find them if you are working on
a run of the Elite 11 group. T206 PIEDMONT 350 cards normally aren't considered to be rare. But all 11 of these guys certainly are. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iGanJonKar.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...sEPDGx25_1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...anJonKarBk.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lSchShaSpe.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...chShaSpeBk.jpg ** Dahlen (Boston) and ** Spencer are without a doubt the most difficult to find of the Elite 11 group. Here is the timeline of the transitional status of 10 of these players during the time American Lithographic started printing PIEDMONT 350 backs. Bill Dahlen............... Oct 27, 1909....signed by Brooklyn. [this may explain why Dahlen (Boston) was short-printed]. Bob Ewing............... Jan 10, 1910....traded to the Phillies Bob Ganley.............. May 18, 1909....traded to Philadelphia A's Tom Jones............... Aug 20, 1909....traded to Detroit Ed Karger................ June 9, 1909.....sold to St. Paul Saints (American Association) ............................. July 26, 1909....traded to Boston (AL) Vive Lindaman......... July 7, 1909....Major League career ends Carl Lundgren.......... Apr 23, 1909....Major League career ends Germany Schaefer.....Aug 13, 1909....traded to Washington Al Shaw.................. 1910....played with Wichita Jobbers (Western League) Tubby Spencer......... Circa July 1909....after catching 28 games with Boston, he quit them for the season [this may explain why Spencer was short-printed]. ............................. In 1910 he played for the St. Paul Saints (American Association). TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE...... "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave"
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC150x30xz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg ... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont____The "House" that created these Tobacco cards__American Beauty ... Sovereign ....…... UZIT Hey guys, These famous lyrics from the Eagles song "Hotel California" appropriately describe many of us serious T206 collectors. I've been collecting T206's for 40+ years, now. I have had many 1000's of these cards. Currently, my collection remains at 2600+ different T206's. Let us hear from you all about how "hooked" you are collecting them. Tell us your interesting stories, and show some cards if the mood strikes you. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
T206 REFERENCE..... "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave"
Since there haven't been any responses to this new topic which I started this time last nite, here's a friendly bump to the top and we'll see what develops.
In 1980, when Bill Heitman published his famous book, little did I know as I read it, I was metaphorically entering the "Hotel California". I have checked out several times (to other hobby interests) these past 40 years, but have always returned to T206's. As is obvious, having put together 5 near-complete (or complete sets) and numerous sub-sets. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onsterBook.jpg TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
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