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Ted, First, many, many thanks to you for all of the info you've graciously shared in these threads. The many reference threads you did are hands down my first point of reference for anything related to T206s. There are many new people beginning to collect T206s every day (myself included, I've only been at them for 3 years now). But, without people like you sharing this info, us newbies would have no idea as to the significance of the many nuances in the set. I learn something new every time I read these reference threads. Personally, the most fascinating ones to me were the ones related to the Elite 11's. I had no idea of their significance or their rarity until reading this Net54 Reference thread about them. As soon as I did was hooked on finding all of them. It took me about 8 months, and with the help of some fellow Net54 board members, I was able to find all of them in both the P350 and EPDG backs (minus the Schulte P350). I am still constantly on the lookout for them and enjoy upgrading the ones I have when I find a new one. My favorite one is the Lundgren (pictured below) because I found it in a raw partial Cubs team set that I purchased. I had no idea of its condition from the scans in the auction, and was elated when I received it. I also had no idea about the significance of the Super-6 until reading this thread. I was lucky enough to purchase an Evers with Bat-Chicago with a Sovereign 460 back. However, I had no idea of the significance of how rare this back was until much later when I stumbled across it in your thread. Thank you! |
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Hi Frank
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing it with us. What is your next T206 adventure ? Thank you for your complimentary words. Needless to say, "The Monster" is a very complex set, and I'm willing to share my theories and experiences which I have gleaned from collecting these tobacco cards the past 40years. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
Hi Ted,
My main project is working on the monster (522 minus wagner and doyle). I'm almost halfway there, but am really focused on the HOFers right now. I only have 9 or 10 more to go for them. It's fun and I'm enjoying the journey! |
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Hi Frank You are playing the "game" very smartly by concentrating on acquiring the HOFers early. The prices on some of these guys have become ridiculous. I predict you may reach at least the 518 mark by the end of this year (perhaps even sooner). Good Luck to you. I am curious, in the process of putting this set together, do you favor any particular T-brand ? TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
Hi Ted,
I tried replying via the messages but not sure if it worked. Please email me at frankbev29@yahoo.com. |
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC150x30xz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg ... Sweet Caporal .... Sovereign ....American Beauty__The "House" that created these Tobacco cards__....Piedmont ......... Sovereign ............ UZIT Hey guys, I don't do "PM's". I will gladly reply to any questions which you may have. Feel free to contact me directly...... tedzan11@comcast.net Or, just post your questions here on this thread.....Thank you. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
Revisiting the 150-only Series.....and, let's see your cards.
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...0Hindu12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpg The five T-brands printed on the backs of the 150-only Series of T206 cards American Lithographic introduced the T206 set during the Spring of 1909 by printing these 12 cards then shipped them to T-Factory's____ . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rchDonlinX.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC150x30xx.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...onusWagner.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...PeltyReulX.jpg One way to gauge a group of subjects printed in a specific T206 Series is to compare their pop report data. Given normal probability, their numbers will closely coincide with respect to their T206 backs. And, of course the numbers of the HOFer cards in this group will be somewhat higher than the common cards in the group. Here's looking at the bigger picture of the 150-only Series from the perspective of the pop report data...... ** Subjects----HINDU----SOV----SC25----SC30----PIEDMONT Ames ------------ 7 ------- 12 ----- 13 ----- 33 ------- 118 G. Brown ------- 14 ------ 10 ----- 12 ------ 44 ------- 189 M. Brown -------- 8 ------ 15 ----- 13 ------ 51 ------- 269 HOF Burch ------------ 8 ------ 17 ----- 15 ------ 27 ------- 163 Donlin ---------- 10 ------- 9 ------- 9 ------ 55 ------- 178 Doyle ----------- 13 ------- 8 ------ 16 ------ 27 ------ 155 Evers ----------- 11 ------ 10 ------ 15 ------ 47 ------ 222 HOF Pattee ----------- 9 ------- 11 ----- 14 ------ 37 ------- 182 Pelty ------------- 8 ------- 11 ----- 11 ------ 38 ------- 173 Reulbach -------- 9 -------- 9 ------ 9 ------- 30 ------- 170 Schulte --------- 10 ------- 7 ------ 13 ------ 35 ------- 160 Furthermore, I consider Frank Schulte a 150-only subject. My theory is that American Lithographic replaced the vacant Wagner slot in their early press run with the Schulte card. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...150Schulte.jpg ** Note..... the above numbers are from PSA pop report data. Comparing this data with the SGC pop report data, the pattern coincides very closely. But, the magnitude of the SGC numbers are slightly lower. I'd say that the cards in the 150-only Series are the toughest T206's to find than T206's in the subsequent series in this set. It would be very interesting to hear of your experiences, comments, and see your cards regarding these 150-only subjects ? I look forward to your responses. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
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Ames G Brown Burch Probably because at one point I figured I'd go for them alphabetically. A plan I gave up on fairly quickly. I didn't really find those all that difficult. If I remember correctly, Schulte was listed as a 150 only until a single P350 showed up. At the time I was thinking it was an example of the factory using up "leftover" 150 fronts that hadn't had backs printed yet. A few sheets worth wouldn't be noticed in what must have been a large order for cards with Piedmont 350 backs. Of the 12, seven have the plate scratches, (Perhaps more, I haven't updated my list in a while. ) Which I've always thought of as being later production rather than early. |
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and the end of the 150 printing. |
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