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I have friends from the 90's that are still very active in the hobby and had no idea that the Mastro thing happened. |
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How many times do you think he has advised people to buy cards out of his auctions he knew were altered?
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Not far back someone here posted about a 52 Musial and as I recall mentioned how he reviewed all his purchases with Brent before bidding, I hope for that guy's sake he didn't get burned. |
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Was this one of the service the "Vault" provided? You could send your PSA 6 card and it would leave as a PSA 7 when it is resold. Select the Dr. Moser option when it is shipped there.
Maybe PSA should hire him as a consultant. He is certainly operating a much higher level than they are able to detect. |
If he came clean and flipped on Brent/PWCC/PSA co-conspirators, if any, it's quite possible. "Catch me if you can...." situation.
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This whole situation is like a snake. How do you kill a snake? You don't chop off its tail, you chop off the head. PWCC isn't the head. Gary or any other doctor isn't the head. PSA is the head. PSA is the key to making this work. As I've stated before, if PSA does their job correctly, none of these get graded and the card doctors are out of business. |
Someone should examine these altered cards to determine if the alteration left anything behind that is detectable. If it is, we as a hobby should force PSA to answer why they aren't using this detection method.
A measurement of the trimmed cards should suffice. If cards that don't measure have been graded, we also deserve an answer as to how that is happening. I have no idea what percentage of the hobby is on blowout and here, but if everyone agreed not to submit until we get some answers it may force the issue. I find it ironic how worked up some are in this thread and yet some of those commenting are putting together a PSA group submission on the main page of the site. |
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Right!!!! Wtf??? You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink ! |
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If everyone agreed to not submit until...
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off topic but...
What do you think of the picture in this listing?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-BOWMAN...8AAOSw7Ppc1csS |
Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
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If you don't ask for it, it will never happen.
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My 4:1 offer still stands. Anybody got balls? |
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Too bad PSA didn't offer pedigree service early on. "Moser doctoring collection" on the label....:D
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Has anyone on this forum received a sticker on a card they’ve consigned with PWCC?
I don’t think this post will unduly prolong the duration of this thread.;) |
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PWCC sold the cards to collectors and targeted investors. I don't think it's up to the buyer to send their card back into PSA to determine if there was altering. Collectors might do this, but likely not the investors. Brent has an obligation to his customers to make them aware that their investments are tainted. Instead, he's trying to change the game with his conservation/restoration nonsense. When it's time for the investors to sell, they're going to get a fraction of what they put into it. If Brent was truly a victim here and not complicit he'd put out a statement that PWCC is actively researching the fraud and will be contacting buyers so they can seek a refund through PSA's guarantee.
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Those are T206 Green Ty Cobb portraits, for those who didn't click on the links.
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Not sure if anyone has said it yet, but..
"never get cheated"
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Read my signature block. Do people see signature blocks by default?
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When I was selling off my dad’s collection for him, most of the cards went through PWCC. In fact I was a pretty big supporter of Brent based on my dealings with him (“was” being the key word). The DiMaggio debacle was the start, but when this latest BS started getting unveiled, I thought back to some of his cards that got grades I was disappointed with that went through PWCC. The first one that came to mind was a 57 Starr that had great eye appeal, but a stain on the back. I wondered if it would show up as part of this. Sure enough, here it is...
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2425 Surprised it still only got a 6 after the work. Based on the delay between auctions, I wonder if it was resubbed and/or reworked multiple times until he gave up. It certainly wasn’t the most valuable card he had, but it was still really nice before being “conserved”. Edit: Just remembered I posted about it when the original auction went up and included the raw pics in this thread - http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=221499 |
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This is merely a statement of fact. Draw your own conclusions. https://glean.info/paying-contributi...thical-common/ |
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