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Hi James (53toppscollector) However, I have never seen the Bender (trees) with a TOLSTOI back, So, I am inclined to agree with Pat R, that it is possibly a grading labelling error. I have annotated this entry on my list with a ? TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
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t206resource has 60 unconfirmed Tolstoi's out of the 314 on the list. I have seen at least one example of all the confirmed Tolstoi's except Bender with trees. From Teds list I've never seen the Following Tolstoi's and they're not in any of the pop reports Bliss Casey Knight (bat) Knight (portrait) Merritt O'Neill Pfeister (seated) I have seen these that are not confirmed on Ted's list Beckley Donovan (throwing) Fromme Knabe Street (portrait) Sweeney, Bill |
Interesting similarities between T206 Doyle Nat'L and T207 Hoff
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...onSGC40xxx.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eetCap11xx.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eign460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...bbBat12xzz.jpg ...... Piedmont ...... Sweet Caporal ..... Polar Bear_____The "House" that created these Tobacco cards_____Sovereign ........... Hindu ........ American Beauty OK guys....switching back to the main track regarding the subject matter....Joe Doyle. Here's a story which you may find interesting. Imagine pulling a Joe Doyle Nat'L card from a Piedmont pack when you were a teenager. Or, your Dad's visit to Atlanta in 1910 acquiring a Ty Cobb/TY COBB card for you ? ? One of the most unique T206 collections in the hobby is on display at the University of Georgia (Athens). Former Georgia Senator Richard Russell's collection of approx. 1000 tobacco cards were donated to Georgia U. in 1983 (along with Russell's historical papers). Russell was an avid BB fan as a teenager. At the age of 13 (1910), he started smoking cigarettes (Piedmont was the available brand in his area of Georgia). He pulled 1000's of T206 cards from the packs he purchased. His T206 set has 497 different cards. However, no Wagner or Plank in his collection. Not unusual, since these two gems were not marketed with Piedmont backs. His teenage smoking habits came to an abrupt end in Fall of 1911, when his parents enrolled him into Gordon Military Institute. It is my impression that his BB card collecting also ended at that point (judging from the few number of T205 cards in his collection). P.S. In 2008, I became quite interested in this story regarding Richard Russell's collection, since I acquired a number of cards (duplicates) from his original collection. A relative of his had consigned approx. 200 cards (mostly T206's) to a dealer in Atlanta (who listed the cards on ebay). He was selling many of his duplicates which were found in a box in a desk drawer from Russell's estate. The group of T206's which I acquired were all Piedmont 350 backs, including 7 of the the rare "Elite 11" cards. So, the point of this story is....before Larry Fritsch discovered the Joe Doyle Nat'L card, it was an unknown rarity, just waiting to be discovered. TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
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Ted do you have scans or know who confirmed these Tolstoi's Bliss Casey Knight (bat) Knight (portrait) Merritt O'niell Pfeister (seated) |
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Ted for accuracy on the Tolstoi list I would appreciate if you would respond to my question.
These are confirmed and they were on your old list and Scot readers Tolstoi survey but you don't have them on your new list. Beckley Donovan (throwing) Knabe Bill Sweeney These are not on your list and I have them confirmed Street (portrait) Fromme Attachment 481026 Attachment 481027 These are on your new list but weren't on your original list so they are recently confirmed or mistakes Bliss Casey Knight (bat) Knight (portrait) O'neill Pfeister (Seated) I haven't seen or found any records of these Tolstoi's do you have scans or a record of who confirmed these recently? I did find where you confirmed the Merritt in Scot's survey do you have a scan of that card? Quote:
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Interesting similarities between T206 Doyle Nat'L and T207 Hoff
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I've been away since last Friday. I was set-up at the Philly Show (3 days). Visiting friends this week. When I return home, I'll try to sort thru my records to see what I come up with. Meanwhile, when are you going to correct your "buddies" (or whoever) at T206Resource regarding these 5 cards: Ames (Hands Above Head) listed as "confirmed" with an AB460 back. This is absolutely a NO-PRINT. Furthermore, the T206Resource checklist regarding PIEDMONT 350-460/42 includes these 4 subjects listed as "confirmed": Bergen (catching) Chance (batting) Murray (portrait) Wiltse (Portrait - With Cap) These 4 cards are absolutely NO-PRINTS with PIEDMONT 350-460/42 backs. For over 15 years, there are three of us, who individually, put together our P42 runs. And we have compared our experiences collecting this sub-set. We are convinced that T206Resource is inaccurate, listing these 4 cards as "confirmed" with this back. TED Z . |
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The 4th inaccuracy in T206Resource 's PIEDMONT #42 checklist is Overall (Hands at waist level). The PIEDMONT #42 sub-set is complete with exactly 72 subjects....63 from the 350/460 Series and 9 from the 460-only Series. TED Z . |
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