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BeanTown 11-06-2017 07:16 PM

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The Otsego Baseball Team, owned by a millionaire Tom Stephens, went on to win the state championship in Ypsilanti. A member of that squad was Ty Cobb, the "Georgia Peach," and the most feared professional player who ever played Major League baseball for the Detroit Tigers.

Rumors have it that Cobb only played in one ball game for the Otsegos but he was paid a hefty sum of $1,000 for the game. At that time Cobb drew a salary of only $2,250 with the Tigers, so his trip to Gaylord was worth it.

Other major league players who played once in awhile for their team was Killian (kneeling next to manager), Donlin (first row on left), and Goulait (7th player back row). Mullin, Killian, and Bowerman have been known to play with the team at times to as the millionaire lumberman didn't like losing.

These games occurred between 1912-1914. Lapeer was one of the opposing teams they faced, in many rivalry series. Rumorville has it that Walter Johnson was offered 1500.00 to pitch in the final game, but he did not play.

It was common for pro players to be paid money to play in small hometown games. If not for hometown newspaper articles or photos, many of these stories would be lost in time. This is a RPPC which I recently acquired from a longtime board member who decided to pass the torch after 37 years of owning it which I'm thankful for.

Would love to find a Lapeer RPPC to go along with this one.

h2oya311 11-07-2017 08:32 AM

JC - very, VERY cool Cobb PC!!! Thanks for the write-up to help give context as to why he’d be pictured with an amateur team.

Rucc_31 11-07-2017 01:43 PM

awesome piece JC, love that cobb playing amateur ball was not undocumented by a beautiful post card.

BeanTown 11-07-2017 01:56 PM

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Thanks guys as I think these RPPCs don't get the love they deserve. Here is another one. I used the great write up that Brockleman Auctions did on it.

The featured item in this lot is RPPC of a composite photograph of the 1916 Colonial Baseball Club of New Haven, Connecticut. Featured at the top center of the composite is Ty Cobb, who joined the team in August of 1916. Later in the season, this semi-pro team would play both of the League Champions, defeating Brooklyn 4 to 1 on Sept 10, 1916 and tying the Boston Red Sox 3 to 3 on October 15, 1916(a game in which Babe Ruth pitched). At this time in his career Cobb was playing first base and had eight assist's in the game versus the Red Sox! During the course of the 1916 season, the Colonials, made up mostly of college stars player several of the American and National League teams.

Now that we have given a brief history of Cobb and the Colonials, it's time to take a look at the rarity of the piece. Longtime collector and auctioneer Lew Lipset has only seen and offered two of these in his long time in the hobby. An internet search revealed no others of this composite being offered for sale or displayed online. Perhaps there are others, but at this time, only two can be confirmed! The one offered here is from his 2008 Auction, where it was sold with the companion postcard of the game played Sept 10, 1916 against the Brooklyn club.

Angyale 11-07-2017 04:04 PM

Billy Sunday
 
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and family.

orly57 11-07-2017 09:41 PM

Those are incredible JC. I love that Oswego card. Got any more Cobb RPPC's you care to share???

Jcfowler6 11-08-2017 01:14 PM

I love this part of the hobby. My two recents adds.

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orly57 11-08-2017 09:34 PM

John, I saw that Wagner vignette at auction and thought it was fantastic. I don't know much about it, but I love the image. And I can just tell it's one of those cards that looks even better in-hand. I love it. Congrats.

Baseballcrazy62 11-09-2017 05:25 PM

Thoughts
 
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I picked this up along with about 20 goudey premiums. Not sure what to make of it. Your thoughts ....

Jcfowler6 11-09-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1718248)
John, I saw that Wagner vignette at auction and thought it was fantastic. I don't know much about it, but I love the image. And I can just tell it's one of those cards that looks even better in-hand. I love it. Congrats.



Thanks Orlando. I am the same. My knowledge is limited on this one too. I know there are others with different players.

I liked the look of the PC and the image. of course Honus is one of my favorites so that doesn’t hurt

Appreciate your comments.

Jon


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Baseballcrazy62 11-09-2017 05:29 PM

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Here's the back of the Kelly postcard. I have done a little research and can't find anything about that card turned into a postcard.

BeanTown 11-09-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62 (Post 1718463)
Here's the back of the Kelly postcard. I have done a little research and can't find anything about that card turned into a postcard.

Maybe it's a Four Base Hits card. Why do you think it's a postcard? Could be a fantasy card as well.

Leon 11-09-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62 (Post 1718463)
Here's the back of the Kelly postcard. I have done a little research and can't find anything about that card turned into a postcard.

If real it is worth a small fortune. It isn't a postcard and is a N690 baseball card. My suspicion is it isn't real due to the way the back looks. There are 2 currently known.

Baseballcrazy62 11-09-2017 09:10 PM

Thank you
 
It is the size of a post card. I tried to identify it but couldn't find anything currently listed anywhere.

Leon 11-09-2017 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62 (Post 1718524)
It is the size of a post card. I tried to identify it but couldn't find anything currently listed anywhere.

Then it is a reprint. It should be about 2 1/4 x 3 7/8 inches. Here is some info....

http://www.oldcardboard.com/n/4baseh...?cardsetID=682

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BeanTown 11-28-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1717922)
Those are incredible JC. I love that Oswego card. Got any more Cobb RPPC's you care to share???

Not a RPPC. It it's a Lawrence Semon postcard of Ty Cobb. We hardly see this series come up for sale.

edjs 12-01-2017 02:55 PM

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Nothing earth-shattering, but someone wrote on the back of this Cal., Newport. I like to think it is from Newport Beach, but no way to prove anything. I think the one player's uniform says E. McGuire on it, probably a company team. Not much to go on for figuring out who the two dudes were, but a cool image and not much of a hit on the pocketbook. You don't see a whole bunch of early Southern California baseball stuff, if this is from Newport Beach.

yanksfan09 12-01-2017 04:43 PM

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Postcards are awesome! Love this thread! Some of my faves...

BeanTown 12-01-2017 06:36 PM

Erick, love the Paige as I should have jumped on that. I think it's from his rookie year and with an auto! How can you go wrong. Those two 1922 Unc cards aren't bad either 😉

yanksfan09 12-01-2017 07:56 PM

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Thanks Jay,

Yea the Paige is postmarked 1948!

Exhibitman 12-01-2017 08:48 PM

Erick: wow. Just wow...

I am almost embarrassed to post it after that Ruth cornucopia but another Marciano for me:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DzUAA...9S/s-l1600.jpg

yanksfan09 12-01-2017 09:35 PM

Thanks Adam, that's a cool card there!

h2oya311 12-01-2017 11:57 PM

I always thought it was interesting that Satchel Paige autographed with two “Ls” (i.e., “Satchell”) early in his career and changed over to one ”L” (i.e., “Satchel”) later. Looks like yours has two “Ls”.

edjs 12-05-2017 01:28 PM

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I picked this up recently, and have been wracking my brain trying to figure out what team this is. I hate going to you guys to figure things out, but after much searching I still can't figure this out. So many of the players look like someone I should know, but I just can't find a "for sure" answer. In the memorabilia forum, I had one response that the guy in the back row left looked like Frank Doyle, but the uniforms to me do not look like Roanoke. Also, what are the items the two players with the dogs have that are resting on their legs and under their arms? Any thoughts? Any help is much appreciated.

Kawika 12-05-2017 01:44 PM

Am not getting a glimmer of recognition from any of the faces. Cool postcard nonetheless. My guess, and it's only a guess, is that the mystery items are gun sleeves. The guy in the center looks like he could bench press Scott Brockelman. :)

edjs 12-05-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawika (Post 1726714)
Am not getting a glimmer of recognition from any of the faces. Cool postcard nonetheless. My guess, and it's only a guess, is that the mystery items are gun sleeves. The guy in the center looks like he could bench press Scott Brockelman. :)

I could see them being gun sleeves, with the dogs they have, but why display the sleeves but no guns? I have never seen Scott, but that dude is stout. I would not go in on him with my spikes up.

slidekellyslide 12-05-2017 03:23 PM

They used those sleeves to carry bats.

Brian Van Horn 12-06-2017 11:44 PM

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Leon 12-07-2017 03:15 PM

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Another 1948 Paige PC, No cancellation but he did date it and write the cool letter. (same postcard but back scanned smaller)

docpatlv 12-07-2017 09:31 PM

This was posted in another thread but hadn't been posted here...1907 Jumbo Floral Horseshoe postcard.


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...igersJumbo.jpg

Jeffrompa 12-14-2017 04:20 PM

Jack Dempsey Auto
 
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Just found in the basement ...

edjs 12-15-2017 09:10 AM

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This is from LOTG, it was listed as a "San Bernardino" player. I've not found any uniforms to compare, but the only semi-pro team from that era was the 1913 San Bernardino Kittens. However, my guess, based on the "SB" surrounded by a large "S" on uniform, and the Star on the hat, is that if this is a San Bernardino team, they would be called the "Stars," or something like that. I've read that baseball was being played in San Bernardino since 1899 when San Bernardino was in the Southern California League, so who knows. Heck, I just recently found out that Walter Johnson started pitching here in Orange County when he was a teen. For so small an amount of memorabilia, Southern California was way more into baseball than I knew.

Edited to add: This is definitely not the Kittens, once I decided to use my head, I did some really slick detective work. I read what is printed on the back of the card. The date, Feb. 22, 1910. Brilliant work on my part.

seattlerainiers 12-15-2017 11:16 AM

Clowning around
 
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Scary clowns, cool postcards. I've included two of the 1915 Tacoma cards, in that they are were taken a few minutes apart. McGinnity re-crossed his arms.:rolleyes:

slidekellyslide 12-15-2017 01:16 PM

Great postcards, Dave. Those are some scary looking clowns.

rainier2004 01-06-2018 04:30 PM

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Been awhile since I got t post in this thread, a really long while...feels good. I also get to be the first post of new year? What could be better...

I got my first card today of 2018 and the second time I have owned this exact example which was difficult to replace. I HAD to trade it for something else and it found its way back to me and showed up today. 1907 FP Burke Detroit PC, one of Cobb's earlier images and I love the emblem in the background. It comes in both black and blue and I far prefer the tough black variation. Also, its unused with just a simple corner crease as it returns in to my top 10 favorite cards.

yanksfan09 01-06-2018 04:36 PM

Nice Steven, Love that tiger!

Leon: Great Paige PC!

rainier2004 01-06-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksfan09 (Post 1736102)
Nice Steven, Love that tiger!

Leon: Great Paige PC!

Thanks Erick.

Also, I let Orly know you didn't want anything to do with postcards and that you don't even want to see a Cobb Pc if one becomes available...heh.

Happy New Year!

yanksfan09 01-06-2018 04:56 PM

Happy new year,

Thanks for that, yea I'm dumping all I own soon. These post cards are for the birds! ;)

IMAXMAX 01-06-2018 07:32 PM

Clownz
 
these are incredible!
Regards,Daniel

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Originally Posted by seattlerainiers (Post 1729714)
Scary clowns, cool postcards. I've included two of the 1915 Tacoma cards, in that they are were taken a few minutes apart. McGinnity re-crossed his arms.:rolleyes:


Leon 01-08-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlerainiers (Post 1729714)
Scary clowns, cool postcards. I've included two of the 1915 Tacoma cards, in that they are were taken a few minutes apart. McGinnity re-crossed his arms.:rolleyes:

The clowns are cool (except to my daughter, she hates clowns) and a 1913 RPPC of some babes

http://luckeycards.com/women.jpg

seattlerainiers 01-11-2018 10:25 AM

Size matters
 
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orly57 01-11-2018 11:58 AM

I love the fat borders.

rainier2004 01-11-2018 12:11 PM

That is a big boy...


And that is definitely a big stick!

Bicem 01-11-2018 02:14 PM

That's just a photo of me after meeting Dave for dim sum a few weeks ago.

seattlerainiers 01-11-2018 03:37 PM

Big belly
 
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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1737614)
That's just a photo of me after meeting Dave for dim sum a few weeks ago.

I told you not to eat all 12 of the hom bao.

BeanTown 01-13-2018 01:50 PM

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The Good, Bad, and Ugly all in one card!

sb1 01-13-2018 05:43 PM

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Another one of the upcoming auction PC's......quite a few 1908 Dietsche, which this Cobb is, also including the tougher 1908 only's

Dewey2007 01-13-2018 09:40 PM

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I picked this postcard up awhile back. It's a 1908 Krieg & Halton team postcard. This was a semi-pro team that was based in Alameda, CA. What makes it pretty cool is it was sent by team owner Joe Krieg's wife Agnes.

holybull 02-03-2018 07:30 PM

Vintage Hank Greenberg Postcard.....
 
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1930's Team Issued Detroit Tigers Postcard of Hank Greenberg with a sweet period signature....love the stuff that he signed during his playing days and while he was in World War II....

rainier2004 02-03-2018 07:37 PM

Beauty Bull!

ryansito1 02-04-2018 12:10 PM

Let's see some postcards
 
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ad84368da5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0ea6971dd8.jpg Burke/Brace era postcards I’ve collected over the years. Never could value them if anyone can point me where to look I’d appreciate it.


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slidekellyslide 02-04-2018 12:20 PM

Those were made by Jim Rowe in the 1970-80s using Burke/Brace negatives. They do not have much value. A couple bucks each.

ryansito1 02-04-2018 12:27 PM

Let's see some postcards
 
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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1744955)
Those were made by Jim Rowe in the 1970-80s using Burke/Brace negatives. They do not have much value. A couple bucks each.

Really? Thanks I never knew this. Based on the paper feel and texture of photos I assumed late 50’s early 60’s


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rainier2004 02-04-2018 07:42 PM

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Cant believe no one bid on this...found in an attic hole and looks good!

Just kidding...got it from a buddy and love it.

orly57 02-04-2018 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1745100)
Cant believe no one bid on this...found in an attic hole and looks good!

Just kidding...got it from a buddy and love it.

That is a monster. And it is in great shape. Congrats brother.

yanksfan09 02-04-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1745110)
That is a monster. And it is in great shape. Congrats brother.

+1... Awesome Steve!

rainier2004 02-04-2018 08:59 PM

Thanks guys...still pinching myself.

Baseball Rarities 02-04-2018 09:29 PM

Steve, congrats on that one. Such a great postcard.

Leon 02-05-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1745100)
Cant believe no one bid on this...found in an attic hole and looks good!

Just kidding...got it from a buddy and love it.

Great card. There goes the piggy bank savings. :)

holybull 02-14-2018 09:13 PM

thanks!

darwinbulldog 02-15-2018 08:28 AM

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Let's take it down a few notches now.

Exhibitman 02-15-2018 12:00 PM

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The Good, Bad, and Ugly all in one card!

A very rare Ruth is never ugly.

Is it PC backed or blank backed?

BeanTown 02-15-2018 07:19 PM

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A very rare Ruth is never ugly.

Is it PC backed or blank backed?

Blanked back. What does this mean, or do I need to wait for the book to come out?

Baseballcrazy62 02-21-2018 06:37 PM

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Anyone ever see these before. Post mark on one is 1907 and the other is 1908. Tnought they were pretty cool so I picked them up. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Baseballcrazy62 02-21-2018 06:43 PM

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Picked this one up as well. Post mark is 1910.

seattlerainiers 02-23-2018 10:24 AM

1910 Portland Beavers
 
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The 1910 Portland Beavers individual player postcards series are right up there for me. Here are a few, including one of my all-time favorite RPPCs and favorite players, Sylveanus Augustus Gregg.

Gregg had an incredible year as the ace of the 1910 PCL champion Beavers, en route to three 20 win seasons in his first three years with the Cleveland Naps.

If anyone has any from this series available for sale or trade, I'm all ears!;)

h2oya311 02-23-2018 10:31 AM

Dave - those are just awesome!! Thanks for sharing!

edjs 02-23-2018 10:46 AM

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If anyone has any from this series available for sale or trade, I'm all ears!;)

Dave, I think all us PCL collectors would be all ears on these, they are awesome. Thanks for sharing those images. Super cool.

Yoda 02-23-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1736669)
The clowns are cool (except to my daughter, she hates clowns) and a 1913 RPPC of some babes

http://luckeycards.com/women.jpg

I guess, as the captioned suggestion suggests, I would take hemlock.

h2oya311 02-23-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1750681)
I guess, as the captioned suggestion suggests, I would take hemlock.

I honestly thought the last lady in the postcard (farthest right) was a miniature centaur.

Leon 02-24-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1750712)
I honestly thought the last lady in the postcard (farthest right) was a miniature centaur.

LOL...that's pretty funny.

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seattlerainiers 02-27-2018 10:39 AM

Bloomer Girls
 
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Leon's Rapid City Collegiate RPPC inspired me to pull out a handful of Bloomer Girls cards to post.

I'd guess that there are no surviving examples of the "College Bloomer Girls" posters pictured in the bar , but man, I'd love to see that thing in its full color-litho glory. Same for the Western Bloomer Girls truck.

rainier2004 02-27-2018 11:48 AM

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This showed up today...I love would be an understatement. I love this image and the old time glove and bag and Chase just looking like a stud.

slidekellyslide 02-27-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlerainiers (Post 1752225)
Leon's Rapid City Collegiate RPPC inspired me to pull out a handful of Bloomer Girls cards to post.

I'd guess that there are no surviving examples of the "College Bloomer Girls" posters pictured in the bar , but man, I'd love to see that thing in its full color-litho glory. Same for the Western Bloomer Girls truck.

I know from an order form that Guy Green mailed out to team managers that the Nebraska Indians had large posters that they would mail out ahead of time to teams on their schedule. I would dearly love to even find a photo of one. Nice postcards, Dave.

Exhibitman 02-27-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 1748428)
Blanked back. What does this mean, or do I need to wait for the book to come out?

Yes, the book will be awesome but my question about the Ruth was strictly about the card--I thought I'd seen that exact card before and wanted to be sure it was the same one, which wasn't a PC.

I got one PC recently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eeney%20PC.jpg

This kind of single event PC is like pizza to me: can't resist it. Checks all the boxes:

--Vintage
--Rare
--HOFer depicted

Andrew1975 03-14-2018 07:30 PM

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Postcard sent by Red Sox owner Joe Lannin to Nuf Ced McGreevey during 1914 Spring Training. Interesting baseball content... “we are going for the pennant from the start.”

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Bicem 03-14-2018 08:51 PM

Very cool Andrew!

qed2190 03-14-2018 09:22 PM

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Another Dempsey auto

slidekellyslide 03-14-2018 11:12 PM

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Postcard sent by Red Sox owner Joe Lannin to Nuf Ced McGreevey during 1914 Spring Training. Interesting baseball content... “we are going for the pennant from the start.”

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Uh.....that's pretty awesome!! How did you find it?

Andrew1975 03-15-2018 06:59 AM

Thanks, Dan and Jeff. Amazingly, found the postcard on Ebay (along with a second postcard sent to Nuf Ced - both auctioned together in a lot). The second postcard was sent to McGreevey from an individual named Joe Burns, a known/documented member of the Royal Rooters. That postcard, sent from Hot Springs in March, 1917, also contains some baseball content. Burns writes that "the Sox are looking fine".


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