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Pat R 03-17-2015 09:54 AM

2 Attachment(s)
The scans are small, I had to reduce them because the file was to big.
The scratches are highlighted in red on the right.

From left to right it's Ball-Crawford-Cicotte-Seymour-Criss

steve B 03-17-2015 07:03 PM

Wow Pat.

That's fantastic.

9 vertically for each player if I'm counting right?

Of course a couple of the unfilled corners could be different players.


Steve B

Jobu 03-17-2015 08:52 PM

Damn Pat, brilliant work!

Pat R 03-17-2015 09:19 PM

Thanks Steve and Bryan. Steve I think some of these sheets were more than
9 verticals high of the same subject.

Jantz 03-17-2015 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1391333)
What makes it tough is all the data is spread out over different series and backs and there is evidence that the sheet layouts were changed even among the same series and backs. Using the piedmont 150's as
an example you have a two name Lundren/Dooin and Lundgren/Ball and you have hand cuts of Wagner and Plank.

+1

Walsh/Seymour - Piedmont 150
Walsh/Brown, M - Piedmont 350
Walsh/Lumley - Piedmont, series unknown due to back damage

Luke 03-17-2015 11:21 PM

We also have Jantz's Shipke/Griffith and my oversized Shipke that clearly is at the top of the sheet. Both P150. I'll come back and add scans when i get to my computer.

Nice work Pat! Really interesting stuff!

t206hound 03-18-2015 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeLyon (Post 1391594)
We also have Jantz's Shipke/Griffith and my oversized Shipke that clearly is at the top of the sheet. Both P150. I'll come back and add scans when i get to my computer.

Nice work Pat! Really interesting stuff!

what makes all of this very tough is the probability that sheet layouts may have changed even within a "series."

Pat R 03-18-2015 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1391611)
what makes all of this very tough is the probability that sheet layouts may have changed even within a "series."

+1

steve B 03-18-2015 07:41 AM

The sheets very well could have been more than 9 high. But now we know P150 was most likely at least 9 high for the same subject. There's gaps and missing corners, but if they weren't the same subjects I think two name cards would be more common. So keeping it sort of simple --At least 9 high for each subject.

It's good to know a piece like that for sure.

Even if it makes me totally rethink something else I'd been working on that had me thinking each subject was 8 high.

I believe that means it's possible to find at least 9 versions of each front, most likely with very small differences but some will be easily identifiable.

Steve B

Pat R 03-18-2015 07:50 AM

2 Attachment(s)
A pair of Oldrings with the same scratch and corner crop mark.

The scratch runs through the i in series the m in piedmont the A in cigarette
the u in quality and the A in factory.


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