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No Doubt Mr. Coombs had an impressive 3 Year Run! 80 Wins in Just 3 Years Will Nevar Happen AgaiN.... Being a "BiG" Ed Walsh Rooter, I Do Know THaT Mr. Walsh Had His Own Nice Run of 81 Wins From 1906-08(17,24 & 40) I'm Not Sure if it's the Record?, Mr. Walsh Certainly Holds Many! Howevar, As You Know "BiG" Ed Holds the All Time Record fir ERA(1.82), And Mr. Coombs Bested the Spitballer by 1.32 to 1.59 during their 3 Year Runs. So, my Hats Off to Mr. Coombs! ~ Very Impressive during his time ~ *And I Just Moved Mr. Coombs to the "Head of the Pack" Of my "Who Should of Bin Included inta the T206 Set"!!! As Always Sir... Dankz fir the Education, "TRuLy!" :) |
Hi Denny
Thanks for the information on "Big Ed". Walsh (as you well know) was amazing from 1907 - 1912.....168 Wins. That's an average of 24 Wins per season ! Hey guy, we here in Pennsylvania have produced a lot of great ballplayers throughout the years. Dare I say the T206 set consists of more Pennsylvanians than from any other state in the country back then. Yes, for 3 consecutive seasons Jack Coombs was a tremendous pitcher. But your guy was tremendous for 7 consecutive years. Thanks again for the memories, TED Z . |
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And Grover Cleveland Alexander came close with 94 from 1915-1917.
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While playing around with spreadsheet checklists for Polar Bears and Sovereigns, I came across something interesting that may or may not have been brought up in the past. The first part I'm sure everyone is aware of is that all Sovereign 150/350 cards do not exist with Polar Bear backs. The second part which I normally wouldn't think much into it but a magic number 55 comes into play. I combined the Sovereign and Polar Bear lists together. I then removed the Sovereign 150/350 cards. Then I removed the cards that shared Polar Bear and Sovereign backs. What I was left with was a list of Polar Bears that don't have Sovereign 350 & 460 counterparts, and a list of Sovereign 350's that don't have Polar Bear counterparts. Odd thing is that each list has 55 unique cards and the Sovereign's are all the Forest Green Backs. So, am I putting too much thought into this? What's everyone's thoughts that each list has 55 cards? All cards are from the Print Group 2 class except where noted.
Sovereign 350 Forest Green Backs that don't have Polar Bear counterparts. Arndt, Harry Bender, Chief (With Trees) Brown, George (Washington) (PRINT GROUP 1) Burns, Bill Butler, John Byrne, Bobby Campbell, Billy Cassidy, Peter Collins, Eddie Crawford, Sam (Throwing) (PRINT GROUP 1) Cree, Birdie Dahlen, Bill (Brooklyn) (PRINT GROUP 1) Dineen, Bill Donovan, Wild Bill (Throwing) Doolan, Mickey (Fielding) Downs, Jerry Dubuc, Jean Dunn, Jack Dunn, Joe Fiene, Lou (Throwing) Hall, Bob Hannifan, Jack Hartsel, Topsy Howell, Harry (Portrait) Huggins, Miller (Hands At Mouth) Huggins, Miller (Portrait) Jennings, Hughie (Portrait) (PRINT GROUP 1) Killian, Ed (Portrait) Knabe, Otto Lennox, Ed Malarkey, Bill Marquard, Rube (Portrait) McCormick, Moose McGinley, Jim McIntyre, Matty Mitchell, Fred Mitchell, Mike Moran, Herbie Mowrey, Mike Myers, Chief (Fielding) Oberlin, Frank O'Hara, Bill (New York) Paskert, Dode Phelan, Jimmy Poland, Phil Rhoades, Bob (Hands At Chest) Rossman, Claude Schmidt, Boss (Portrait) Stephens, Jim Street, Gabby (Portrait) Summers, Ed Sweeney, Bill Thomas, Ira Wilson, Owen Zimmerman, Heinie Polar Bear Backs that don't have Sovereign 350 or 460 counterparts. Adkins, Doc Arellanes, Frank Barbeau, Jap Barger, Cy Bliss, Jack Brashear, Roy Bresnahan, Roger (Batting) Burchell, Fred Clark, Josh Clymer, Bill Collins, Jimmy Davidson, Paul Delehanty, Frank Demmitt, Ray (St. Louis Amer.) Dessau, Rube Dorner, Gus Downey, Tom (Fielding) Engle, Clyde Evans, Steve Freeman, Jerry Ganzel, John Graham, Bill Gray, Dolly Groom, Bob Hayden, Jack Jones, Davy Kleinow, Red (Boston - Catching) (PRINT GROUP 3) LaPorte, Frank Lattimore, Bill Lavender, Jimmy (It was pointed out that this card doesn't belong on the list. So this list only has 54 cards.) Lord, Harry Maddox, Nick Maloney, Billy Mattern, Al McLean, Larry Milan, Clyde Miller, Dots Mullen, George Murray, Red (Batting) Nattress, Billy O'Hara, Bill (St. Louis) Pelty, Barney (Vertical) (PRINT GROUP 3) Phillippe, Deacon Puttman, Ambrose Rhodes, Charlie Ritter, Lou Rudolph, Dick Schirm, George Schlafly, Larry Schreck, Ossee Shannon, Spike Sharpe, Bud Smith, Frank (Chicago & Boston) (PRINT GROUP 3) Snodgrass, Fred (Batting) Willett, Ed |
Ron...one change for you - Lavender has both Polar Bear and Sovereign 350.
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Hi Ron
Interesting stuff. I did a similar analysis with POLAR BEAR vs 1910 COUPON (T213-1) Major League (48) subjects in 2008. Refer to this thread.... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...1654&highlight Shown here are the 48- Major League subjects in the 1910 COUPON set. The 1910 COUPON cards were issued circa..Spring/Summer 1910. My theory.....is this group of 48 subjects were printed from an early 350-only sheet of T206 cards. From this group, 39 subjects are POLAR BEAR No-Prints. The nine printed POLAR BEAR cards from this group are listed below. 1910 COUPON (T213-1) Major League (48) subjects http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sSheet12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Sheet12xxx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sSheet12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eSheet12xx.jpg Confirmed POLAR BEAR Subjects from this COUPON group Engle LaPorte Willett and the Six Super-Prints....which of course went on to be 350/460 series subjects and have PB backs Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (bat-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) TED Z . |
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