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tedzan 03-18-2015 08:05 AM

Hey guys......
 
I like Pat's diagram (post #151).....as it is similar to some of the stuff I have been presenting on this forum regarding T206 sheet arrangements.

Although, the subject matter in this thread pertains to Piedmont 150 cards, any indicators in the 150, 350, 460 series enable us to figure out the
possible sheet structure.

For example....illustrated here is my hypothetical simulated sheet of T206's that I refer to as the Exclusive 12 subjects (460 series). My research
suggests that these 12 subjects were printed separately from the other 460 series cards. And, on a standard 19" x 24" cardboard sheet in such a
configuration.

Incidently, the length of this sheet (24") could accommodate a 9th row of T206's....which results in a 108-card sheet.



. l<..................................... 19" wide x 24" long sheet ......................................>l
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...96cards50x.jpg



TED Z
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t206hound 03-18-2015 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1391621)
The sheets very well could have been more than 9 high. But now we know P150 was most likely at least 9 high for the same subject. There's gaps and missing corners, but if they weren't the same subjects I think two name cards would be more common. So keeping it sort of simple --At least 9 high for each subject.
Steve B

One interesting side note is that while there are more than a few two name cards with Piedmont 150 in which the subjects are known to have instances of plate scratches, none of the two name Piedmont 150 cards themselves have plate scratches.

tedzan 03-23-2015 11:51 AM

It's time for me get in on this "party"
 
Here's my Green Cobb with scratch marking right thru the PIEDMONT lettering. Are their any other such similar plate scratch markings ?
And, of what relevance does this mark have with respect to the others ? ?


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...encobbp150.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...dmont150bk.jpg



TED Z
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steve B 03-23-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1393510)
Here's my Green Cobb with scratch marking right thru the PIEDMONT lettering. Are their any other such similar plate scratch markings ?
And, of what relevance does this mark have with respect to the others ? ?


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...encobbp150.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...dmont150bk.jpg



TED Z
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Very nice card! I may have a scan of that one.

The same scratch can be found on Goode, and possibly others. Pat has his more organized than the scans I have.

So we can tell that Goode and Cobb green probably weren't on the same sheet, or at least were in different spots if they were on multiple sheets.
Hahn has a scratch that is similar and looks like it would be not the next column over, but the second to the right of Goode/Cobb.

It's really like a big jigsaw puzzle, we just don't have the picture on the box to go by.

With multiple subjects showing the same scratch we can also begin to get an idea how many sheets were used. I think the biggest number with identical scratches is 3 or 4, so there were at least that many different sheets. If it stays at 4, that makes a sheet with between 35 and 40 subjects more likely.

It's also entirely possible that the issue is complicated by there being two P150 plates that were both damaged. There's a couple loose groups of damage that don't appear to be equally common, but it's way too early to consider it to be more than just a possibility.

Steve B

Pat R 03-23-2015 03:22 PM

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Steve, The scratch on the Goode I have is higher up, I have Tinker as a
matching scratch with Cobb.

Pat R 03-23-2015 05:41 PM

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Ted, Here's another Cobb with the same scratch as yours.

tedzan 03-23-2015 06:26 PM

Hey Pat
 
Very nice....talk about consistency on these plate marks.

Well, I will be on the lookout for the same scratch mark on other Green Cobb's with PIEDMONT 150 backs.

Take care,

TED Z
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steve B 03-23-2015 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1393583)
Steve, The scratch on the Goode I have is higher up, I have Tinker as a
matching scratch with Cobb.

You're right, I totally blew that one.

Maybe time for better glasses.


Steve B

Jobu 03-23-2015 09:46 PM

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Chase

EDITED to remove my Warhop and Keeler mistakes.

Pat R 03-24-2015 02:25 AM

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