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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2134527)

As a variation nut, I actually 'discovered' this one on my own a long time ago, sometime in the earlier 90's IIRC? Never heard of it (and I'm sure someone out there before me can claim the actual discovery as their own), but found/noticed one (among multiple Kalines) inside the huge box of 1973's my brothers and I had amassed, and I've been looking for them ever since. Sold a couple at healthy prices, and interest seems to be skyrocketing.

I will point out this card is cursed!! Seemingly every time I put one of mine out there for trade or sale, some sc_mbag comes out of woodwork trying to take it off of my hands for nothing. All they see are dollar signs and nothing else matters. They usually take the exact same approach, from pretending their interest is tepid by saying they 'might' be interested in the card, to pretending it's not worth anything by saying, "You know, elm, you and I are probably the only ones who collect this guy," to offering me nothing but crap for it, to spewing out the hatred when I don't fall for their obvious BS. It's like they're reading from the same script. They want the card and it doesn't matter one bit that I don't want (can't use, etc.) what they insist I take for it. I just laugh and think, "What the hell is wrong with these people??!!" Sorry for the rant, but this card is just a grief maker!! Whenever I get a PM with the subject line being "1973 Kaline," I just think, "Crap, here we go again!!"

Hopefully, your results will vary. :rolleyes:

I know exactly how you feel...I posted a 69 567 no black outline card one time and got the same type of ridiculous messages in regards to it. Heard some great stories though...entertaining even.

I don't know if this has been reported, but I noticed this variation on the 1955 Elmer Valo. At the bottom of the front the red box corner, lower right is clipped off in the variation. On the back of the variation his batting average doesn't have a decimal point (.280) but is shown as 280.

Unless they are already known, it’s incredible that either one of those on the 55 Valo went undiscovered for 66 years. They’re both new to me.

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2136290)

Unless they are already known, it’s incredible that either one of those on the 55 Valo went undiscovered for 66 years. They’re both new to me.

I'm surprised too. I looked it up on the list of variations and didn't see it. I also checked on Ebay and saw both versions for sale. So it appears to be a real variation.

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2136396)

I'm surprised too. I looked it up on the list of variations and didn't see it. I also checked on Ebay and saw both versions for sale. So it appears to be a real variation.

Great find....now to find the one I need...

1957 Detroit Tigers Team Card

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Both vars :http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...STEAMS_NEW.JPG

...White uniforms -brown grass and blue uniforms -green grass

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I do think you can find at least two versions of every 57 card with coloring differences such as this one. I think someone offered a bunch of examples in this or another thread

The great blues and greens shade wars of 1957 :

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2138725)

I do think you can find at least two versions of every 57 card with coloring differences such as this one. I think someone offered a bunch of examples in this or another thread

Yes ; pretty sure it was this thread ---here's what I shared in 2017 :

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...ATHEWS_NEW.JPG

..A true master set of 1957 Topps is now up to 800 or so....

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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2138966)

Yes ; pretty sure it was this thread ---here's what I shared in 2017 :

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...ATHEWS_NEW.JPG

..A true master set of 1957 Topps is now up to 800 or so....

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I am the guy who started this nightmare back when. I have four complete sets of 1957 plus a partial set and there are many differences. I scanned all 407 cards and have these color variants as well.

Several years have "blue tints" like this; where it's not just a color being darker in a print run but the color present in places it should not be. 1968 football and 1971 football are pretty obvious, 1967 baseball has them in at least a couple of the series.

1957 has at least two of each card, some have red tint, blue tint and a "proper" one.

I count these as true variations, though it makes my spreadsheets a pain to manage sometimes.