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G1911 01-22-2022 09:42 PM

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Following up to #1929 with John's Nobis cards, looks like it comes in a second variation where only the white in his name is impacted, and the club name is correct.

I've found a roughly even number of both versions of the misprint.

steve B 01-24-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2188507)
I don’t know squat about printing so perhaps I phrased it wrong or used incorrect terminology. If they were able to make white in every card in the set, why could they not have simply made this spot white instead of the yellowish color to correct the error? Making an area of the card white does not seem to be difficult, as they were able to do it in every card in the set.

Typically white is made by just not printing an area like the borders.

The way the printed areas are made in a brief step by step

Original art/photos created
Color separations done, photographing the original through a filter to produce blue, magenta, yellow and black halftones. (On some cards, there are non- halftone areas like borders.)
Those generate large negatives known as the mask.
That is used to expose the plate which gets developed.

On the press, the plate gets wet, then inked with oil based ink.
That transfers to the "mat" which is a rubber roller (sort of)
Then transfers to the paper.

Yellow is usually printed first, followed by ... I forget if blue or magenta is next, then finally black (And glosscoat if you're making it at all glossy.)

There may be days between colors on a really big job unless a multi color press is used or multiple presses.

If there's a big colored spot, the two fixes are either making a new mask without the spot.
Or stoning off the spot on one of the darker colors, if you notice it early enough.

Color separations cost a LOT at the time, I wasn't involved in the pricing, but I think the place I worked got a couple hundred even on a small job in 1980-81

Stoning off the spot in the blue plate would give a yellowish spot since yellow would already be there. And you'd probably have to do it for red too if it was there.
A spot caused by debris could be on all 4 colors, or just on one.

steve B 01-24-2022 12:17 PM

Those Nobis cards are some of the more interesting printing problems I've seen.

ALR-bishop 01-25-2022 09:26 AM

Some recent pick ups based on prior posts by others

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

whiteymet 01-25-2022 04:53 PM

1960 Topps proofs
 
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Hi Gang:

Just picked up a big group of 60 Topps proofs/variations. Here are a few

Issued cards to the left.

Photo 1 note the color background on the small inset photo to the left

Second photo top three cards note the the photo on the inset photo extends over the border, the last card, Gonzalez note the blue bottom border extends over logo

G1911 01-25-2022 05:19 PM

The proofs with the action shot running over into the border look cooler than the issued cards. Very neat to see

ejstel 01-25-2022 05:42 PM

Wow
..so cool to see these!
Was it a find or a special auction?

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butchie_t 01-26-2022 06:44 AM

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Has anyone else seen a 75 Topps Hank Aaron 660 like the one pictured?

I have not seen one like this until about a week ago. And it is headed to my collection now.

Cliff Bowman 01-26-2022 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2189825)
Has anyone else seen a 75 Topps Hank Aaron 660 like the one pictured?

I have not seen one like this until about a week ago. And it is headed to my collection now.

Bad news, it's from the scanner setting used by the seller and will only be a normal 75 Topps Hank Aaron card when you receive it. We've had a few of these pop up here on this thread.

butchie_t 01-26-2022 07:07 AM

Bummer,

Oh well, still a Hank and it was cheap. Thanks!


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